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<blockquote data-quote="Rythannian" data-source="post: 3275990" data-attributes="member: 21491"><p>I have come to EN World once again as it seems to contain the most knowledge of games assembled in one place. </p><p></p><p>Another players interpretation, along with his thread at wizards, of the rules for Leap Attack and Valorous:</p><p></p><p></p><p>Now first I calculate a STR or 28-30 is needed for an imposible modifier of +9.33333.</p><p></p><p></p><p>After reading that email I calculated some thing myself based on a character taking -10 for their power attack using a two-handed great sword with a STR score of 22.</p><p></p><p>Leap Attack only:</p><p>PA @ -10 = +30</p><p>STR 22 = +9 </p><p>Great Sword = 2d6</p><p></p><p>Leap Attack with critical or Leap Attack with Valorous:</p><p>PA @ -10 = +60</p><p>STR 22 = +18</p><p>Great Sword = 4d6</p><p></p><p><strong>IF</strong> the Valorous magic weapon enhancment from the UnAp East FR book applies the damage above would be correct for this as well. </p><p></p><p>Now, If you critical with both leap attack and Valorous it gets a little tricky but where we go:</p><p>Leap Attack + Valoruos with critical:</p><p>PA @ -10 = +90</p><p>STR 22 = +27</p><p>Great Sword = 6d6</p><p></p><p>Does this all look correct?</p><p></p><p>Now my second and most important question is should Leap Attack and Valoruos even stack in the first place? </p><p></p><p>Here was my response to him: ...you may want to inquire if Valorous can stack with Leap Attack. In my opinion they don't. Valorous works with a charge attack. Leap attack is a combination of jump with a change attack and not a straight charge. It is it's own attack defined as a leap attack and Valorous does not say it doubles damage on a leap attack only a charge.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rythannian, post: 3275990, member: 21491"] I have come to EN World once again as it seems to contain the most knowledge of games assembled in one place. Another players interpretation, along with his thread at wizards, of the rules for Leap Attack and Valorous: Now first I calculate a STR or 28-30 is needed for an imposible modifier of +9.33333. After reading that email I calculated some thing myself based on a character taking -10 for their power attack using a two-handed great sword with a STR score of 22. Leap Attack only: PA @ -10 = +30 STR 22 = +9 Great Sword = 2d6 Leap Attack with critical or Leap Attack with Valorous: PA @ -10 = +60 STR 22 = +18 Great Sword = 4d6 [B]IF[/B] the Valorous magic weapon enhancment from the UnAp East FR book applies the damage above would be correct for this as well. Now, If you critical with both leap attack and Valorous it gets a little tricky but where we go: Leap Attack + Valoruos with critical: PA @ -10 = +90 STR 22 = +27 Great Sword = 6d6 Does this all look correct? Now my second and most important question is should Leap Attack and Valoruos even stack in the first place? Here was my response to him: ...you may want to inquire if Valorous can stack with Leap Attack. In my opinion they don't. Valorous works with a charge attack. Leap attack is a combination of jump with a change attack and not a straight charge. It is it's own attack defined as a leap attack and Valorous does not say it doubles damage on a leap attack only a charge. [/QUOTE]
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