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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Saracenus" data-source="post: 9664953" data-attributes="member: 47839">Listening To: Vitamin String Quartet - VSQ Plays Imagine Dragons and The World of Studio Ghibli.Ok, let's talk about sources. The whole reason I am updating portions of T1-4 The Temple of Elemental Evil (ToEE) is I am going to use parts of it and intergrate it with parts of Princes of the Apocalypse (PotA). There are other sources, but these are the main ones.For example as per the Appendix C: Adapting to Other Worlds in the back of PoTA the <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/pota/appendix-c-adapting-to-other-worlds#Greyhawk" target="_blank">Greyhawk</a> section says:So, I am going to use the The Village of Hommlet and The Moathouse with parts of Red Larch sprinkled in. This should level up the PCs to be able to play the main plots in PotA. The work present here is primarily the start of the process.[HR][/HR]Side Note: The village name of Red Larch refers to the species of trees that were cut down to build it. When I was working on my conversion of the Moathouse I came across this quote from T1: The Village of Hommlet box text as you approach The Ruined Moathouse:The Merrion-Webster Dictionary says this:If the name for the village of Red Larch came from this, then Sasquatch Studios who wrote PotA, made a super deep cut reference to Hommlet.[HR][/HR]For Nulb, PotA suggest:Not sure if I am going to follow that, but I have time, we are not going there to start.So what other sources are going to get folded into this? In no particular order:<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">2e/3e: The Temple of Elemental Evil: Twenty Years After (TOEE2) - Chris Kennedy AKA [USER=41](contact)[/USER]. He hasn't posted since 2021 but this was the very first story hour posted written by him and originally posted up by [USER=2]Piratecat[/USER]. Not sure there is anything I will use from this, but damn if it isn't entertaining, and character death, so much character death that you would think the players were Spinal Tap Drummers. Unfortunately for me it takes place in Post-War Greyhawk and the assumptions do not align with my 576 CY era campaign. I can only hope my campaign will be this good. Sadly, I cannot find a current link to the story. This came out in the stone age of this website back in the year 2000. "It should have been you Fräs. . ."</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">3e-ish: The Temple of Elemental Evil (video game) - Troika, Activision. This was a bug filled game that could have been great. It was a super faithful adaptation of the original 1e Temple Adventure using the 3e rules (mostly). Years later the fan community patched and modded the game into a "workable" state via Co8 Mod Group. Then someone replaced the code engine with Temple+ (I have not used this version yet). You can still purchase this game via GOG.com. I am going to let you go down this rabbithole if you want, how to setup a playable version of the game is its own thread. There are a lot of good things about this game (bugs aside), NPC names for all Hommlet villagers, Fully developed Nulb, and the Temple is as deadly as I remember. At least you got a save point. If I find the time to install this again with the Temple+ engine I might mine it for stuff. There are a ton of walk throughs on the internet if you want to see some of the ideas they fleshed out.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">3e: <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/28447/Return-to-the-Temple-of-Elemental-Evil-3e" target="_blank">Return to the Temple of Elemental Evil</a> - Monte Cook. I refer to this only a little. Its a good adventure but really don't like Monte's decision to combine the Elder Elemental Eye with Tharizdun. Like the story hour above it is post-wars Greyhawk and that is not helpful to me.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">4e: <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/163632/Dungeon-212-4e?" target="_blank">The Village of Hommlet</a> - Gary Gygax and Andy Collins. The print version was a RPGA reward for D&D Encounter's DMs, it was later republished with new art and maps in the <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/163632/Dungeon-212-4e?" target="_blank">eDungeon Mag issue 212</a>, page. 40. My wife and I both got a copy of the print version  because I organized a weekly gameday and my wife DMed. It is a bare bones affair that I think suffers because of combat focus of 4e and the use the Dawn War pantheon. It is a good example on how to convert the combat encounters into readable and ready to play material. However the titular village itself gets the short shrift. There are some NPC names to steal and some updates to some of species of the inhabitants. There is also a nifty Moathouse Ruins Battle map that was shrunk a bit to fit on the size of the poster map.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">4e: The Elder Elemental Eye - Peter Sleijpen & Chris Sims. This was Season 14 (?) of the D&D Encounters program it was also republished in <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/165541/Dungeon-214-4e?term=Dungeon+%23214" target="_blank">eDungeon Mag issue 214</a>, page. 66. I have a copy. It suffers like the 4e Version of Hommlet and set in the Forgotten Realms. Not sure if there is anything to file the serial numbers off of and use. It does come with 3 battle maps. As far as I know the only way to own a copy was organizing or DMing for RPGA D&D Encounters program.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">D&D Next/5e: <a href="https://www.dmsguild.com/product/169620/Dungeon-221-4e-Next" target="_blank">The Battle of Emridy Meadows</a> -Jon Leitheusser & Christopher Perkins. This adventure was in the last in the last published issue of Dungeon Magazine, Issue 221(available on DMs Guild, click the title to go there). The alliance of Good finally gets a name, Righteous Host. This adventure takes PCs to the war council, pre-battle missions, and then the battle itself. I will likely mine this for Emridy Meadows if the PCs want to go there.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">5e: <a href="https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/soee/scions-of-elemental-evil" target="_blank">Scions of Elemental Evil</a> - Amanda Hamon. This is part of the 50th Anniversary celebration of D&D. It gives me a reason to have the PCs go to the Kingdom of Celene and meet Queen Yolandel (the DMG 2024 version). Not sure if I am going to run this as is or I will mod it yet. Depends on what the PCs do and how their allies and enemies react.</li> </ul>Basically these are all idea farms that I am breaking up into small bits that I can use however I need based upon the actions of my PCs.Next? I am thinking about how I am going to deal with Lareth. But, we don't talk about Lareth (because he is the source of endless arguments from old heads).[ATTACH=full]406115[/ATTACH]</blockquote>

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