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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ranes" data-source="post: 5474009" data-attributes="member: 4826">Yes, the wizard still has other options to learn spells, of course. And I think it does have the potential to lend character to the campaign.I agree that there's something a little niggling about giving clerics a free pass. But I don't want them to be too close to the wizard in terms of look and feel.But the jury's still out on these ideas, which is why I'm here.Thanks for the suggestions.The last guy who took the feat in one of my games did very well with it, actually.Perhaps I should have mentioned no bards but the cloistered cleric has a similar mechanism.I DM with the goal of giving everyone opportunities to shine. I can engineer the appropriate moments. But I'm not taking issue with the basic argument.All right.The cloistered cleric learns spells as the normal cleric does. That is, he knows all the spells of level x as soon as they become available. His spell and skill list are expanding in exchange for more limited martial prowess. Why not gimp him like the wizard? My initial reason for not doing so is that I sometimes find players unwilling to play the cleric (the same reason why 3e gives them so much clout as it is).</blockquote>