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<blockquote data-quote="Thunderfoot" data-source="post: 5733327" data-attributes="member: 34175"><p>I've always had a problem with cross-classing due to this issue - Okay a mage wants to become a fighter, no problem, he knows how to basically swing a weapon (any idiot can do it, right?) and the armor thing is a bit tricky, but other than that, no problem....</p><p></p><p>The fighter wanting to become a mage though... Where did he do his apprenticeship? How long has he been studying musty tomes? If we've learned anything from fantasy literature it's that mage apprentices are taken in young and worked like a dog to learn patience, persistence and a smattering of technique. Where did Joe the Meat Shield learn this?</p><p></p><p>I have the same problem with Rogues, Rangers, Druids and Monks...</p><p></p><p>Now if their backstory is one of a mage apprentice that ran off to become a thief and then started picking things back up... I can see that, but just because you've watched the mage of the party blast a few beasties with Magic Missile is by no means extensive or intensive enough training for Fineous Fingers to suddenly start on the path to "Phenomenal Cosmic Power"</p><p></p><p>All that being said - if they are leveling in their respective classes, no problem, auto level and drive on. If they are looking at taking a prestige class, the "I was working towards it already" excuse works (unless the class says they need to be trained for some reason).</p><p></p><p>Also, think outside the box. Like was stated earlier, wandering parties of other adventurers, prisoners of monsters the party has rescued, secluded hermits (not in a moving mountain. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f631.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":eek:" title="Eek! :eek:" data-smilie="9"data-shortname=":eek:" />), monsters that are less monster and more "civilized" than their counterparts, etc. Where there is a will, there is a way.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Thunderfoot, post: 5733327, member: 34175"] I've always had a problem with cross-classing due to this issue - Okay a mage wants to become a fighter, no problem, he knows how to basically swing a weapon (any idiot can do it, right?) and the armor thing is a bit tricky, but other than that, no problem.... The fighter wanting to become a mage though... Where did he do his apprenticeship? How long has he been studying musty tomes? If we've learned anything from fantasy literature it's that mage apprentices are taken in young and worked like a dog to learn patience, persistence and a smattering of technique. Where did Joe the Meat Shield learn this? I have the same problem with Rogues, Rangers, Druids and Monks... Now if their backstory is one of a mage apprentice that ran off to become a thief and then started picking things back up... I can see that, but just because you've watched the mage of the party blast a few beasties with Magic Missile is by no means extensive or intensive enough training for Fineous Fingers to suddenly start on the path to "Phenomenal Cosmic Power" All that being said - if they are leveling in their respective classes, no problem, auto level and drive on. If they are looking at taking a prestige class, the "I was working towards it already" excuse works (unless the class says they need to be trained for some reason). Also, think outside the box. Like was stated earlier, wandering parties of other adventurers, prisoners of monsters the party has rescued, secluded hermits (not in a moving mountain. :eek:), monsters that are less monster and more "civilized" than their counterparts, etc. Where there is a will, there is a way. [/QUOTE]
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