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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 5544307" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>I'm not convinced.</p><p></p><p>In the cases you mention, having the proper resistances stops the damage.</p><p></p><p>In this case pre-errata, the attack that did 15 fire and cold damage would do all 15 points of damage to every single NPC unless the NPC had fire immunity.</p><p></p><p>If the NPC has 20 fire resistance and 20 cold resistance, this combo used to still do 15 damage out of 15 damage.</p><p></p><p>In the cases you mention, if the NPC has 20 fire resistance and 20 cold resistance, and a cold/fire attack did 30 points of damage (instead of 15 because of the extra feats), it would only do 10 points of damage. The resistances still apply as long as the monster has every needed resistance.</p><p></p><p>There was no way to negate every single case of multiple types of resistance completely with a single class feature and a single magic item like this combo. When you think of the ability to sidestep an entire subset of the defensive rules of the game, that's pretty darn potent.</p><p></p><p>That's why it is overpowered and errata-ed. It completely wipes out every single NPC set of resistances as long as the power has more than just the fire keyword. All of them. The NPC needs Fire Immunity to overcome this combo.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 5544307, member: 2011"] I'm not convinced. In the cases you mention, having the proper resistances stops the damage. In this case pre-errata, the attack that did 15 fire and cold damage would do all 15 points of damage to every single NPC unless the NPC had fire immunity. If the NPC has 20 fire resistance and 20 cold resistance, this combo used to still do 15 damage out of 15 damage. In the cases you mention, if the NPC has 20 fire resistance and 20 cold resistance, and a cold/fire attack did 30 points of damage (instead of 15 because of the extra feats), it would only do 10 points of damage. The resistances still apply as long as the monster has every needed resistance. There was no way to negate every single case of multiple types of resistance completely with a single class feature and a single magic item like this combo. When you think of the ability to sidestep an entire subset of the defensive rules of the game, that's pretty darn potent. That's why it is overpowered and errata-ed. It completely wipes out every single NPC set of resistances as long as the power has more than just the fire keyword. All of them. The NPC needs Fire Immunity to overcome this combo. [/QUOTE]
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