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<blockquote data-quote="Matt Thomason" data-source="post: 8909378" data-attributes="member: 6777331"><p>4. is the bit that might not go their way in this hypothetical.</p><p>Especially because I know some 3PPs quite happily saying they intend to use ORC+Black Flag SRD, along with "for 5e" on the cover (and potentially even with "Compatible with the Dungeons and Dragons[tm] game" or some variant thereof.</p><p></p><p>This results in</p><p></p><p>5. Now all the 3PP material for D&D is not constrained by a single word in the OGL and people are going further than they could within it and claiming <gasp> compatibility.</p><p>In this situation , it seems to me Hasbro have lost everything, rather than gained it. They now have no control at all - except, of course, for C&Ds and court dates, which may still be all they need if everyone backs down. If I don my "think like a suit" hat, I feel having as many people as possible bound to <em>your</em> license is a win, with the goal being to play with the licensing rights until you get the best possible mix of control (as much as you can get), coverage (as many licensees as you can get), and rights granted (as little as you can get away with) - but there are certainly some points on that 3D graph with worse overall scores than others.</p><p></p><p>In reality, I assume it'll be a mix of your version and mine <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> The big question will be whether Hasbro have an overall gain or an overall loss to the current position. Lots of control over a tiny number of 3PPs is pretty worthless at the end of the day - but so is having lots of licenses to 3PPs allowing them to do anything they want.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Matt Thomason, post: 8909378, member: 6777331"] 4. is the bit that might not go their way in this hypothetical. Especially because I know some 3PPs quite happily saying they intend to use ORC+Black Flag SRD, along with "for 5e" on the cover (and potentially even with "Compatible with the Dungeons and Dragons[tm] game" or some variant thereof. This results in 5. Now all the 3PP material for D&D is not constrained by a single word in the OGL and people are going further than they could within it and claiming <gasp> compatibility. In this situation , it seems to me Hasbro have lost everything, rather than gained it. They now have no control at all - except, of course, for C&Ds and court dates, which may still be all they need if everyone backs down. If I don my "think like a suit" hat, I feel having as many people as possible bound to [I]your[/I] license is a win, with the goal being to play with the licensing rights until you get the best possible mix of control (as much as you can get), coverage (as many licensees as you can get), and rights granted (as little as you can get away with) - but there are certainly some points on that 3D graph with worse overall scores than others. In reality, I assume it'll be a mix of your version and mine ;) The big question will be whether Hasbro have an overall gain or an overall loss to the current position. Lots of control over a tiny number of 3PPs is pretty worthless at the end of the day - but so is having lots of licenses to 3PPs allowing them to do anything they want. [/QUOTE]
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