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<blockquote data-quote="bogmad" data-source="post: 6098299" data-attributes="member: 6695559">What's fun is a bit subjective from player to player, admittedly.&nbsp; As for your latter point, I would concede that my point* wasn't entirely thought out. The best rule (for a BASIC system like basic D&amp;D next at least) should make narrative sense, but also be simple.&nbsp; Turn based combat works better rather than more narratively consistent mechanics because it's simple to grasp. Still, a &quot;knock down&quot; maneuver should actually knock something down instead of solely &quot;apply the disadvantaged condition.&quot;Finding the sweet spot between broad and simple is where we all seem to differ. [See D'Karr's refutation of my earlier post citing the 3e fireball]*&quot;If it's easier to understand the effect of a rule than the narrative explanation of said rule, maybe it's not the best rule.&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bogmad, post: 6098299, member: 6695559"] What's fun is a bit subjective from player to player, admittedly. As for your latter point, I would concede that my point* wasn't entirely thought out. The best rule (for a BASIC system like basic D&D next at least) should make narrative sense, but [I]also [/I]be simple. Turn based combat works better rather than more narratively consistent mechanics because it's simple to grasp. Still, a "knock down" maneuver should actually knock something down instead of solely "apply the disadvantaged condition." Finding the sweet spot between broad and simple is where we all seem to differ. [See D'Karr's refutation of my earlier post citing the 3e fireball] [COLOR=#333333]*"If it's easier to understand the effect of a rule than the narrative explanation of said rule, maybe it's not the best rule."[/COLOR] [/QUOTE]

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