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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 6411337" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>This brings up another interesting point.</p><p></p><p>How does the DM handle autosaves?</p><p></p><p>I have encountered players in the past that are bothered by autosave type things. One guy in particular I know would cast a spell at a creature, the creature autosaves, and the first words out of his mouth would be "That's bullxxxx.".</p><p></p><p>For creatures like Dragons, sure. Players expect them racially to just be bad boys that have amazing abilities.</p><p></p><p>But Joe Boss? If the NPCs/monsters can manage to get this type of ability, there are players who will want to figure out how they can get a once per day autosave.</p><p></p><p>Alternatively, the DM could pretend to roll behind the screen, but in our group, DMs always roll in front of the players, so this would be unusual.</p><p></p><p>So if a given DM wanted to give autosave to one of his bosses, what are some good ways to handle this? One way could be to roll an advantaged save (or an advantaged save with a reroll of the lower dice, kind of like combining advantage with luck). In reality, that would just be a feint (i.e. rolling for the sake of rolling), but trust the dice to go super cold on the fake autosave roll.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Instead of faking it, a DM could just not use autosave for non-legendary monsters. He could use advantage once per day (for lieutenants) , or advantage plus luck combined once per day (for a boss). Or if that is too strong, just advantage for a boss and nothing for lieutenants.</p><p></p><p>Similar result, less potent and aggravating to those players who do not like autosaves.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 6411337, member: 2011"] This brings up another interesting point. How does the DM handle autosaves? I have encountered players in the past that are bothered by autosave type things. One guy in particular I know would cast a spell at a creature, the creature autosaves, and the first words out of his mouth would be "That's bullxxxx.". For creatures like Dragons, sure. Players expect them racially to just be bad boys that have amazing abilities. But Joe Boss? If the NPCs/monsters can manage to get this type of ability, there are players who will want to figure out how they can get a once per day autosave. Alternatively, the DM could pretend to roll behind the screen, but in our group, DMs always roll in front of the players, so this would be unusual. So if a given DM wanted to give autosave to one of his bosses, what are some good ways to handle this? One way could be to roll an advantaged save (or an advantaged save with a reroll of the lower dice, kind of like combining advantage with luck). In reality, that would just be a feint (i.e. rolling for the sake of rolling), but trust the dice to go super cold on the fake autosave roll. Instead of faking it, a DM could just not use autosave for non-legendary monsters. He could use advantage once per day (for lieutenants) , or advantage plus luck combined once per day (for a boss). Or if that is too strong, just advantage for a boss and nothing for lieutenants. Similar result, less potent and aggravating to those players who do not like autosaves. [/QUOTE]
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