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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DEFCON 1" data-source="post: 5726299" data-attributes="member: 7006">Let's not get ahead of ourselves here.  Sure, it's nice to pat ourselves on the back and think that not getting our opinions are what stopped 4E from being the 'greatest rpg of all time'... but that's a little much, don't you think?  A little too self-serving perhaps?  Especially considering there's absolutely no evidence whatsoever to think that we gamers would be able to come to any sort of consensus on what would have made 4E 'the greatest rpg of all time'.You're not ranting... but you're also not really pointing out any sort of actual truth.  In fact... 4E DID have quite a number of playtesters from outside their building's walls as part of the general public.  Anyone who questions that can just do search on AintItCoolNews, because one of their columnists was a 4E playtester through most of its gestation period.  So while yes, they didn't get our (ENWorld forum-posters) opinion on any of 4E... they did get some opinions on it from outside the company.This implies that WotC wasn't 'careful' when they were putting 4E together... which is not giving WotC enough credit.  Someone might not like certain changes that were made in 4E, but that doesn't ipso-facto mean Wizards just haphazardly put the game together on a whim and threw it out there.  I'm pretty sure the guys and gals at the company did what they thought was the best, and what they thought would be the coolest D&D game they could make, from within whatever structure the business-side of the company asked of them.</blockquote>

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