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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 5755314" data-attributes="member: 58416">Honestly, (for the past few years) I often do play GURPS instead of D&D if given the choice.  In my previous post, when I mentioned I had sought out a non-D&D experience after my initial experience with D&D 4E was somewhat jarring, GURPS is the game I ended up learning (and now very highly enjoy.)Aside from that, one of the other reasons I decided to quote you is because the GURPS comment is something which strikes me as being somewhat accurate.  There have been a lot of times during L&L articles lately in which I've felt as though Monte Cook had good ideas; however, those ideas are already being used by the folks over at SJG.  Then I see comments from readers along the lines of "yeah, cool, modular D&D" and "woo, more realism."  I think a similar to thing which you just commented; if I want a modular game which provides a variable amount of complexity and allows for different styles while striving to give more of a nod toward realism, why not play GURPS?Strangely, one of the reasons I had such an easy time learning GURPS is because a lot of the rules looked passingly familiar to D&D 3rd Edition.  3rd's grappling, splash rules for thrown weapons, and a few other things seem to have been inspired by GURPS.  When I played 3rd, I thought some of those rules were good; when I more fully understood GURPS, I got the impression that perhaps 3rd was trying to mimic GURPS in some areas, but fell a little short.  I say fell short only because there were times in which I felt that D&D 3rd Edition's problem was trying to be two (very) different games at the same time; serving two masters: realism/simulation & the more typical D&D style and tropes.  Monte Cook was involved with 3rd Edition; now that he's involved again with D&D, some of the conversations about the game rules once again remind me of what the folks over at Steve Jackson Games are already doing.  Coincidence?  I think it's a good thing for a R&D department to seek out ideas wherever they may be; think outside of the Red Box.  I simply find myself curious about how familiar MC is with the work of Steve Jackson and whether or not he's a fan.Here's a link to GURPS Lite for GURPS 4th Edition.  <a href="http://e23.sjgames.com/item.html?id=SJG31-0004" target="_blank">e23: GURPS Lite (Fourth Edition)</a>  It's a free 'Lite' version of the rules.  I provided the link for the benefit of anyone who may be curious to skim the rules themselves and decide if my perception of similarities between them and current L&L articles as well as the old 3rd Edition rules is has some merit or not.</blockquote>

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