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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5757437" data-attributes="member: 95493">Late to the party, so I appologise if this has been brought up. I'm still trying to catch up, by a rate of a full page of replies in like an hour it might take me a bit to reach even THIS post.Except that fighters, the quintessential martial class, don't really get Extraordinary abilities either. They get feats. We can get into the metagamyness of feats later.These examples are all from monk, an odd example for a martial class as 4e made them psionic (iirc). Also, all those abilities are defensive in nature, not meant to hurt the enemy but meant to protect from a variety of weaknesses.Monks are weaker, in general. In 4E they aren't drawing from the same power source. In 3.5 they are but people don't have such a difficult time swallowing their powers.Essentials = 4.5 right? So a bit of a fix, not included in the standard "core" 4.0 material. I do happen to agree with you in general though.Never had to read the previous edition's book Cover to Cover in order to get a good handle on the rules. Never had to read it cover to cover in order to find things foolish, or to find them just. Just saying.</blockquote>