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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 5758438" data-attributes="member: 22779">Tovec - Open up your 3.5 PHB to see what is missing from the SRD description.  The SRD, by it's nature, does not include any flavour text.  However, the SRD is not the PHB and the PHB always trumps the SRD.Again, this is why I said upthread about actually reading the rules because this is flat out wrong.  The player doesn't "simply say it happens".  The DM can, at his discretion, allow it to happen or not.  The rules specifically tell him to make this adjudication.In earlier editions, the adjudication was taken out of his hands and wrapped up in the rules.  Yes, the rules say that the DM can deviate through Rule 0, but, the baseline is that the rules stand unless the DM says otherwise.In 4e, the baseline is the DM.  The DM determines whether the paper in the room burn or not.  Not the player.  The player could probably try to target objects in the area of affect, and then make attacks.  Most DM's would likely allow that without any difficulty I think.  But, again, specifically empowered by the rules, the DM can also determine that all objects in the area are also targeted.I'm absolutely flabbergasted that I'm arguing in favour of DM empowerment against people.  It's blowing my mind.  For YEARS people bitched about how 3e took all the authority away from the DM.  Here we have a very clear cut case of the rules taking all the authority and dumping it straight into the DM's lap, 100% lock, stock and barrel.  And people are still bitching about it.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" />I really don't get it.</blockquote>

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