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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mallus" data-source="post: 5759959" data-attributes="member: 3887">What is the proper reference point(s) for magical fire?Wouldn't it be various depictions of magical fire in fiction, mythology, and film? Can't be the real world, right?Now in fiction, magical fire can burn hot, cold, with pretty audiovisual effects but without deviating significantly from the ambient temperature, etc. It can incinerate bad guys, such as Nazi's, without damaging so much as a fiber of their clothing. It can, in short, do quite a lot of things that deviate from real fire and a strict accordance with the laws of chemistry and thermodynamics.In fact, a case can be made for these rather common depictions of imaginary, magical fire in works of fiction should set the baseline assumptions as to how imaginary, magical fire should behave in the fictional settings D&D campaigns take place in.Not everyone expects a supernatural world designed by 3rd year engineering students. Not  that there's anything wrong with expecting or wanting that... ... but at least concede it that most people who play D&D absolutely do have reference points for things like magic fire. They're found in the books and movies they enjoy.</blockquote>