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Message: <blockquote data-quote="BryonD" data-source="post: 5766026" data-attributes="member: 957">Not to dispute your opinion in any way, but to simply present the other point of view: That is on my list of beefs with 4E.  Things that should be cool become too easy and thus just become typical actions.  I *DO* see Bull Rush attempts in 3E.  I wouldn't say I see it in every game, or even every other game.  But I do see it.  And I think I see it in what, to me, is a completely healthy organic frequency driven not by having a daily or encounter based power to use or lose but instead by making the call when the circumstances fit.And yes, sometimes they don't work.  But they often do work and because the nods to realism make them harder and not "typical", the successes feel HEROIC, like they should.  I also dispute that your description fits your claim of mechanics controlling actions.  On very cursory inspection your logic appears to hold up.  But what you leave out is that those mechanics are themselves FIRST controlled by the narrative merits.  Bull Rushing is not heard because the mechanics say so.  Bull Rushing is hard because it SHOULD BE from a narrative, heroic point of view.  The mechanics then simply come along for the ride in a manner that supports providing the opportunity for failure and only through that opportunity for failure a related opportunity for glory.  I think looking at a list of powers and describing a narrative that complies with the results dictated by the selected power is a much better example of mechanics controlling actions.Again, not disputing anything about how you have fun.  Just presenting an alternative.  I'm also glad that after thirty years of design the focus fell to you side if you felt neglected before.  But I am also glad that the market showed clear resistance to this deviation as well.</blockquote>

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