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<blockquote data-quote="Anselyn" data-source="post: 5744229" data-attributes="member: 55456">I remember someone saying, in a legal context, that contracts exist to make sure frends stay friends.&nbsp; In games, rules exist so that there is a contracted agreement on how to settle possible disputes about the outcome of events so players ans DMs remain friends. So, it's the moment when the DM has to switch from &quot;yes&quot;, &quot;yes-and&quot;, and &quot;yes-but&quot; to &quot;I'm not sure let the rules mechanism decide&quot; that is the real question. &nbsp;The problem is that that&nbsp; moment when varies with group, gaming stlye and tradition. &nbsp;Oh, and before as a RAW tactical-combat champion tells me that my &quot;yes&quot;s lead to just &quot;Mother-May-I&quot; play. Please tell me when you rolled using the rules to see if your character could successfully open the tavern door, walk to the bar, buy a drink and succesfully move his ploughman's lunch from plate to mouth.&nbsp;&nbsp; All DMs have a &quot;yes you can do it zone&quot;.&nbsp;Personally, I'd like new DMs to get the idea of the yes-list first and then the mechanism of negotiation second.&nbsp;Addendum: It would be an interesting project to look at an historical set of &quot;Examples of Play&quot;&nbsp; and look in the example for the frequency of the exemplar Gm say YES, OK, No BUT or ROLL FOR ... &nbsp;Have our play examples been constant over time or changed?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Anselyn, post: 5744229, member: 55456"] I remember someone saying, in a legal context, that contracts exist to make sure frends stay friends. In games, rules exist so that there is a contracted agreement on how to settle possible disputes about the outcome of events so players ans DMs remain friends. So, it's the moment when the DM has to switch from "yes", "yes-and", and "yes-but" to "I'm not sure let the rules mechanism decide" that is the real question. The problem is that that moment when varies with group, gaming stlye and tradition. Oh, and before as a RAW tactical-combat champion tells me that my "yes"s lead to just "Mother-May-I" play. Please tell me when you rolled using the rules to see if your character could successfully open the tavern door, walk to the bar, buy a drink and succesfully move his ploughman's lunch from plate to mouth. All DMs have a "yes you can do it zone". Personally, I'd like new DMs to get the idea of the yes-list first and then the mechanism of negotiation second. Addendum: It would be an interesting project to look at an historical set of "Examples of Play" and look in the example for the frequency of the exemplar Gm say [I]YES[/I], [I]OK, No BUT [/I]or [I]ROLL FOR[/I] ... Have our play examples been constant over time or changed? [/QUOTE]

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