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Message: <blockquote data-quote="fredal" data-source="post: 5740759" data-attributes="member: 6684521">Personally, I think 4E went too far to the tactical side at the expense of role playing. Most of our session have been 30 minutes of progressing the storyline followed by 90 minutes of combat. With such long combats every battle, any momentum towards the storyline is dead. The campaign devolves into a series of skirmish encounters loosely tied together by some storyline that the players can't remember 90% of the time. I think this is why so many players / former players look at 4E as a non-role playing game. I'm glad that they're recognizing combat length and pace as an issue with the current game. Something needs to be done to pick the pace up. I'm not sure if only one action a round is the right solution, but it's good that they're thinking out of the box for solutions. Having said that, I'm ok with the final battle being a 2-3 hour event - just not every battle. Personally, I think it's more that users are overwhelmed by too many options compounded with escalating math / bonuses. Throw in massive HP creep in this version to compound it even more. I can remember a bit of this issue at higher levels in 3.5, but 4.0 takes it to the extreme. We can make the statement that people need to learn to play, but when you're gaming with casual players who don't want to spend the time to optimize how to play their character this option doesn't really hold water. Also, it limits the market for your game, which goes against the ultimate goal for the new version.</blockquote>

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