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<blockquote data-quote="LurkAway" data-source="post: 5782146" data-attributes="member: 6685059"><p>In the story, if you have a Basic Fighter and an Advanced Fighter, does that mean:</p><p>a) Basic fighter is trained differently and less specialized than an Advanced fighter</p><p>b) Basic fighter is using a conventional/defensive stance, and Advanced fighter is being more aggressive and risky</p><p>c) Two different mechanisms (one simpler, one complex) are used to simulate/narrate the same kinds of behavior and outcomes</p><p></p><p>If (a) or (b), then the Basicness and the Advancedness actually simulates something in-game. If (c), then the Basic Fighter could theoretically accomplish anything the Advanced Fighter could do and vice versa.</p><p></p><p>If (b) or (c) and a player chooses a Basic Fighter, is that player permanently locked into the Basic Fighter class progression for that PC, or can the PC be flipped into an Advanced Fighter? If there is a choice to flip from Basic mode to Advanced mode (or vice versa), is this choice available at any time within encounters, or between encounters, or between adventures, or when reaching a new level? (And practically speaking, he'll need an Advanced version of his character sheet)</p><p></p><p>Because WoTC has clearly defined the Soul of D&D as "the story". And the rules should not get in the way of the story that the DM or group wants to tell.</p><p></p><p>So say Bob's Basic Fighter is swinging his sword and hears that Dillinger's Advanced Fighter is pushing foes off the cliff. Bob wants his Basic fighter to also push or trip or kick foes off the cliff too, and why not if his fighter is just as strong and fast and shielded and capable as Dillinger's and so within the story neither should have a monopoly on trying to shieldbash and bullrush. The story is the most important thing, and the rules should support that. So what options are there for Bob?</p><p>1) Bob gets access to a "page 42" to duplicate what Dillinger can do</p><p>2) Bob must reduce his opponents to 0 hp in order to push opponents off the cliff</p><p>3) Bob gets to switch his Basic fighter to an Advanced fighter</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="LurkAway, post: 5782146, member: 6685059"] In the story, if you have a Basic Fighter and an Advanced Fighter, does that mean: a) Basic fighter is trained differently and less specialized than an Advanced fighter b) Basic fighter is using a conventional/defensive stance, and Advanced fighter is being more aggressive and risky c) Two different mechanisms (one simpler, one complex) are used to simulate/narrate the same kinds of behavior and outcomes If (a) or (b), then the Basicness and the Advancedness actually simulates something in-game. If (c), then the Basic Fighter could theoretically accomplish anything the Advanced Fighter could do and vice versa. If (b) or (c) and a player chooses a Basic Fighter, is that player permanently locked into the Basic Fighter class progression for that PC, or can the PC be flipped into an Advanced Fighter? If there is a choice to flip from Basic mode to Advanced mode (or vice versa), is this choice available at any time within encounters, or between encounters, or between adventures, or when reaching a new level? (And practically speaking, he'll need an Advanced version of his character sheet) Because WoTC has clearly defined the Soul of D&D as "the story". And the rules should not get in the way of the story that the DM or group wants to tell. So say Bob's Basic Fighter is swinging his sword and hears that Dillinger's Advanced Fighter is pushing foes off the cliff. Bob wants his Basic fighter to also push or trip or kick foes off the cliff too, and why not if his fighter is just as strong and fast and shielded and capable as Dillinger's and so within the story neither should have a monopoly on trying to shieldbash and bullrush. The story is the most important thing, and the rules should support that. So what options are there for Bob? 1) Bob gets access to a "page 42" to duplicate what Dillinger can do 2) Bob must reduce his opponents to 0 hp in order to push opponents off the cliff 3) Bob gets to switch his Basic fighter to an Advanced fighter [/QUOTE]
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