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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 5783931" data-attributes="member: 710">The level dependent DCs are not a necessity and not even desirable, I think. The tables were useful to define "appropriate" challenges for a given level, but they were not there for "simulation". It's not like Goblins turn into Giants when you grow in level. It's just that you now fight Giants instead of Goblins, and Giants are harder enemies. A 4E failure was to not describe this concept well. Maybe the designers themselves weren't clear themselves - or they thought it was self-evident, which it wasn't to many. This is one of the hope that I think 5E will get better. Explain more of the "behind the scenes" meanings. (One of my favorite parts of the 3E DMG where those "Behind the Scenes" bars.)Well, I don't think level-dependet divergence is desirable. I also think it doesn't really model most fantasy well.Merry and Pippin become competent Fighters in LotR. They never get as good as Gimli or Aragon or Legolas - but they are more coming into their own and can handle themselves well. And, well, Gandalf, whatever he is, he was a competent fighter as well and it didn't seem that when he returned as Gandalf the White, his ability to fight seemed even weaker compared to Aragon or Gimli than before.</blockquote>