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<blockquote data-quote="Majoru Oakheart" data-source="post: 6252718" data-attributes="member: 5143">They don't have to be &quot;preternaturally aware&quot; of things hidden from them...just normally aware.&nbsp; If I look into a fairly dark room with minimal lighting and there is someone crouching behind some sort of cover but still visible because they aren't fully covered, it's likely that I won't spot them.&nbsp; I'll be looking around the room to see what's there and my mind just won't connect that the weird outline behind that desk over there is a person hiding.&nbsp; I'll likely write it off and some object that I'm not sure what it is because I can't see all of it.However, someone else in that same situation might immediately pick out the silhouette of the person.&nbsp; Who knows exactly why?&nbsp; Maybe their brain is more trained to notice partial silhouettes of people in the dark.&nbsp; Maybe their eyes adjusted quicker to the change in lighting than mine did, maybe they have better dark vision, maybe they just randomly paid more attention to that portion of the room.The same applies to subtle details.&nbsp; I look at someone and maybe I think &quot;This woman is blond haired and skinny&quot;.&nbsp; Someone else looks at the same scene for the same amount of time and thinks &quot;Oh, that woman is married.&nbsp; I see she has a wedding ring on.&quot; but completely doesn't notice the color of her hair since that's not where he's paying attention.&nbsp; Another person might look at the same scene for the same amount of time and since their mind is trained to quickly look and analyze a scene they see that no only is she blond, skinny and married, but that she's right handed since she's waving with that hand, that she has 3 weapons on her and that she is wearing the garb of a noble and that it is green and white.I would think the same thing would apply in many other situations as well.&nbsp; One person might look into a room and see &quot;Oh, that's a desk&quot;.&nbsp; Another might immediately notice that the desk lacks the dust of everything else in the room and that there is a subtle pattern of missing dust on the floor leading up to the desk as if someone had just recently pushed the desk into the position it is in.&nbsp; This gives him a warning that the desk might be a mimic.I like having a roll that embodies the skill of being able to analyze things quickly with the luck of accidentally looking in just the right place to spot something hard to notice.&nbsp; I don't like bogging the game down with continual rolling of that roll, however.&nbsp; Passive Perception works well for that in my experience.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Majoru Oakheart, post: 6252718, member: 5143"] They don't have to be "preternaturally aware" of things hidden from them...just normally aware. If I look into a fairly dark room with minimal lighting and there is someone crouching behind some sort of cover but still visible because they aren't fully covered, it's likely that I won't spot them. I'll be looking around the room to see what's there and my mind just won't connect that the weird outline behind that desk over there is a person hiding. I'll likely write it off and some object that I'm not sure what it is because I can't see all of it. However, someone else in that same situation might immediately pick out the silhouette of the person. Who knows exactly why? Maybe their brain is more trained to notice partial silhouettes of people in the dark. Maybe their eyes adjusted quicker to the change in lighting than mine did, maybe they have better dark vision, maybe they just randomly paid more attention to that portion of the room. The same applies to subtle details. I look at someone and maybe I think "This woman is blond haired and skinny". Someone else looks at the same scene for the same amount of time and thinks "Oh, that woman is married. I see she has a wedding ring on." but completely doesn't notice the color of her hair since that's not where he's paying attention. Another person might look at the same scene for the same amount of time and since their mind is trained to quickly look and analyze a scene they see that no only is she blond, skinny and married, but that she's right handed since she's waving with that hand, that she has 3 weapons on her and that she is wearing the garb of a noble and that it is green and white. I would think the same thing would apply in many other situations as well. One person might look into a room and see "Oh, that's a desk". Another might immediately notice that the desk lacks the dust of everything else in the room and that there is a subtle pattern of missing dust on the floor leading up to the desk as if someone had just recently pushed the desk into the position it is in. This gives him a warning that the desk might be a mimic. I like having a roll that embodies the skill of being able to analyze things quickly with the luck of accidentally looking in just the right place to spot something hard to notice. I don't like bogging the game down with continual rolling of that roll, however. Passive Perception works well for that in my experience. [/QUOTE]

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