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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 6231930" data-attributes="member: 95493"><p>Which part makes you ask 'why'? Was it that I found 44 to be huge or that I found it to be unnecessary?</p><p></p><p>About what you did: I'm glad you created what you needed for your BBEG. I don't know whether we would have <em>needed to</em> create a whole new prestige class to achieve the same thing, or that we <em>would have</em> put the kind of effort into make one. Mostly if we needed something for a BBEG we would just make it up (aka lie, cheat, steal) whatever the BBEG needed without paying attention to the rules. So, a prestige class seemed irrelevant. In our games, a prestige class was created with the PCs in mind, not NPCs. So, over the course of play we did sometimes make things up when there was not an acceptable substitute but those were not too popular over all as they were generally overpowered, underpowered, or otherwise too niche to be used. If a player came to us asking to do what you did for your BBEG the default answer would have been "no" if only because we didn't want to open that floodgate, even for something that is perfectly balanced against other options - especially since we had more than enough options already and a significant bunch of players (and DMs) who were power gamers and honestly just jerks who would abuse the system, meaning there was no need to make something up and further strengthen them.</p><p></p><p>And, going back to my question, that you quoted, I already got an answer as he explained what he meant and I have also explained what happened in my games (twice now) - I'm just saying I don't know what you found confusing about my comments about 44 prestiges since there were posts (the rest of mine and the reply) that followed it that explained my position and his (presuming a male gender here, apologies if it is incorrect).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 6231930, member: 95493"] Which part makes you ask 'why'? Was it that I found 44 to be huge or that I found it to be unnecessary? About what you did: I'm glad you created what you needed for your BBEG. I don't know whether we would have [I]needed to[/I] create a whole new prestige class to achieve the same thing, or that we [I]would have[/I] put the kind of effort into make one. Mostly if we needed something for a BBEG we would just make it up (aka lie, cheat, steal) whatever the BBEG needed without paying attention to the rules. So, a prestige class seemed irrelevant. In our games, a prestige class was created with the PCs in mind, not NPCs. So, over the course of play we did sometimes make things up when there was not an acceptable substitute but those were not too popular over all as they were generally overpowered, underpowered, or otherwise too niche to be used. If a player came to us asking to do what you did for your BBEG the default answer would have been "no" if only because we didn't want to open that floodgate, even for something that is perfectly balanced against other options - especially since we had more than enough options already and a significant bunch of players (and DMs) who were power gamers and honestly just jerks who would abuse the system, meaning there was no need to make something up and further strengthen them. And, going back to my question, that you quoted, I already got an answer as he explained what he meant and I have also explained what happened in my games (twice now) - I'm just saying I don't know what you found confusing about my comments about 44 prestiges since there were posts (the rest of mine and the reply) that followed it that explained my position and his (presuming a male gender here, apologies if it is incorrect). [/QUOTE]
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