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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6193135" data-attributes="member: 92511">I'm just struck be the distinct and very obvious omission of ANY reference to psionics.My understanding, certainly from the threads on this forum, that the psions being tucked under the "Mage Umbrella" [tm] was the largest cause of uproar and negative reaction. Sorcerers and Warlocks being there...ruffled some feathers, sure...but I didn't see the outrage of immersion breakage about those two. They both use arcane magic. *Poof* They go under Mage, easy peasy. The Psionics are the ones that had everyone tilting their heads sayin' "Whuuuuuh?"Unless they intend...to place sorcerer and/or warlock under "Trickster" offering it higher HD, lesser armor and more-than-mages-but-still-few/light/simple weapons. They are Tricksters who use magic along iwth whatever is dtermined to be their "expert skills." This may have something to do with the title choice of "Trickster" vs. "Rogue" or "Expert" in the first place -which I agree is horrendous and needs changing back to the 2e titles (Which incidentally,  @<a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/member.php?u=52734" target="_blank">Stormonu</a>  , did include "Wizard" as a group, not "Arcanist". jus' sayin').As for a Monk being a priest, I can totally get behind that. However, both D&D tradition and the very flatly stated criteria for inclusion of their proposed class groups, it would seem the Monk does belong under "Rogue" (for their array of non-magical skill) or Warrior (for their primary function/defining trait as "unarmed combat guy").To make them a Priest class would require a fairly complete overhaul/refocusing of their traditional D&D fluff...and crunch, as they currently have Priests defined as "masters of divine magic." So to do that, you need to make the Monk all about channeling divine energies and/or actually casting spells for their powers...or saying their uncanny physical prowess and "mystical" skills are the result of some achieved (or innate) direct divine connection...but then, isn't that what Clerics have? Change the fluff of both to make a Cleric's (and Paladin) one chosen/imbued by the gods, while a Monk's connection is sought after/achieved by the monk them self...the deity is not looking to help you, you are not one of their chosen...but they eventually notice you and throw you a few scraps/tidbits of divine power for your trouble/devotion.I have no problem with rewriting the Monk's fluff (it probably could have benefited from it at least 3 editions ago), I just don't see it happening.</blockquote>

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