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<blockquote data-quote="Pseudopsyche" data-source="post: 6194714" data-attributes="member: 54600">As the person who made the original assertion, I have to admit that my memory was playing tricks with me, and my characterization of 3E as using classes as prerequisites certainly was not accurate. My bad.That said, my main point is that class groups provide another alternative to formalizing relationships between characters and game elements. No one's saying that you can't define prerequisites for items, feats, or prestige/paragon/multiclass levels without using class groups. I'm just saying that &quot;Prerequisite: Warrior&quot; is a reasonable alternative to &quot;Prerequisite: has proficiency with all martial weapons&quot; or &quot;Prerequisite: Fighter&quot;. Maybe it would be nice to have an Eldritch Knight prestige class that is compatible with some future class (from some module or third-party publisher) that is only proficient with swords.You could argue that &quot;proficiency with all martial weapons&quot; is a better prerequisite for something called &quot;Eldritch Knight&quot;, but the &quot;Warrior&quot; label clearly has potential applications. I suppose someone could argue that he didn't like any applications anybody could possibly ever imagine for class groups, but then I'd have to agree to disagree.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Pseudopsyche, post: 6194714, member: 54600"] As the person who made the original assertion, I have to admit that my memory was playing tricks with me, and my characterization of 3E as using classes as prerequisites certainly was not accurate. My bad. That said, my main point is that class groups provide another alternative to formalizing relationships between characters and game elements. No one's saying that you can't define prerequisites for items, feats, or prestige/paragon/multiclass levels without using class groups. I'm just saying that "Prerequisite: Warrior" is a reasonable alternative to "Prerequisite: has proficiency with all martial weapons" or "Prerequisite: Fighter". Maybe it would be nice to have an Eldritch Knight prestige class that is compatible with some future class (from some module or third-party publisher) that is only proficient with swords. You could argue that "proficiency with all martial weapons" is a better prerequisite for something called "Eldritch Knight", but the "Warrior" label clearly has potential applications. I suppose someone could argue that he didn't like any applications anybody could possibly ever imagine for class groups, but then I'd have to agree to disagree. [/QUOTE]

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