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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6195410" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>Sure, but what format that list would take is apparently an open question. I had made the (perhaps erroneous) assumption that the primary mode of organization would have been the most easily referenced, ie, alphabetical, and that this would be a secondary means of organization for additional utility. If your proposal is that this four-box division be the <strong>sole</strong> method of organization, then we apparently need to have a whole other discussion about why alphabetical organization is superior to most others when presenting list of things to be referenced. Or at least about what you're actually envisioning here. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Right, and, depending on the quantity of magic items, that could take a couple of pages to list. That's what I said. So we're in agreement?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So your idea is both? Fair enough. Then we're just to: "how much space is reasonable to spend on this, given the potential utility."</p><p></p><p>Which, we may be on "agree to disagree" territory. There's a dearth of data for us about who might use those couple of pages, and we're each colored by our own experiences. My experiences suggest that the conjunction of those four elements is rare enough that a page or 4 probably isn't the best use of DMG space. Your experiences apparently suggest otherwise. There's not a lot of neutral data that can confirm or disabuse either of us. </p><p></p><p>I can't help but believe at this point, though, that what we're talking about bears no real relation to what Mearls is proposing. So perhaps we can work backwards from here. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Since I didn't propose not using your book like a book, or not having a book, I can only assume you're being facetious. If you'd like to clarify, I'm listenin'. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Sure. And to present a list sorted by that metric in the DMG alongside an alphabetical list of magic items might be enough utility/word to justify that. I think convincing me of that would require data neither of us probably has access to, but I can at least accept we're down to dueling experiences at this point. Again, though, I'm not really sure how this relates to Mearl's actual proposal?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>There's a lot of things a book does aside from helping you look up magic items. I presume this is obvious, but I can go into some more detail if you'd like.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6195410, member: 2067"] Sure, but what format that list would take is apparently an open question. I had made the (perhaps erroneous) assumption that the primary mode of organization would have been the most easily referenced, ie, alphabetical, and that this would be a secondary means of organization for additional utility. If your proposal is that this four-box division be the [B]sole[/B] method of organization, then we apparently need to have a whole other discussion about why alphabetical organization is superior to most others when presenting list of things to be referenced. Or at least about what you're actually envisioning here. Right, and, depending on the quantity of magic items, that could take a couple of pages to list. That's what I said. So we're in agreement? So your idea is both? Fair enough. Then we're just to: "how much space is reasonable to spend on this, given the potential utility." Which, we may be on "agree to disagree" territory. There's a dearth of data for us about who might use those couple of pages, and we're each colored by our own experiences. My experiences suggest that the conjunction of those four elements is rare enough that a page or 4 probably isn't the best use of DMG space. Your experiences apparently suggest otherwise. There's not a lot of neutral data that can confirm or disabuse either of us. I can't help but believe at this point, though, that what we're talking about bears no real relation to what Mearls is proposing. So perhaps we can work backwards from here. Since I didn't propose not using your book like a book, or not having a book, I can only assume you're being facetious. If you'd like to clarify, I'm listenin'. Sure. And to present a list sorted by that metric in the DMG alongside an alphabetical list of magic items might be enough utility/word to justify that. I think convincing me of that would require data neither of us probably has access to, but I can at least accept we're down to dueling experiences at this point. Again, though, I'm not really sure how this relates to Mearl's actual proposal? There's a lot of things a book does aside from helping you look up magic items. I presume this is obvious, but I can go into some more detail if you'd like. [/QUOTE]
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