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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 2384878" data-attributes="member: 4275">Well the periods overlap. Excalibur technically takes place during the dark ages as well (although the "Arthurian Dark Age" described by Malory has knights... in full plate... but I digress).Dark Ages takes a more historical tack. While some of the classes are the same (those with names you recognize from Excalibur are ported from that book), changes are made for historical purposes. Mechanically the book gives you the tools to simulate the technology of the day. The book contains complete weapon and armor tables for the best technology of the day, which is wrought iron. It also includes some wonders still used in the dark ages such as meteoric steel and Damascus steel. Rules are also provided for mounted combat without stirrups. So Id say the books compliment each other. If you wanted to run an Arthurian game as described in Excalibur, there would still be things in Dark Ages for you, such as the Barbarian bloodline, the Marauder, Monk and Soldier classes (heck I think most of the classes would be applicable to an Excalibur game) and the greater depth of history in the game. If you wanted to run a "historical" Arthurian game then you'd probably keep a lot of the classes from Excalibur but port in the weapon and armor tables from Dark Ages. If by Moors you mean Muslims, they are covered as one of the two great threats faced by Europe during the dark ages (the defeat of the Arab army at Poitiers and the invasion of Europe by Atila and his Huns).If by Moors you mean African Muslims living in Spain as a minority. They don't really exist yet in that fashion during the dark ages. During the dark ages the Iberian Peninsula (modern day Spain) was another part of the Arabic Empire. In 1031 the Caliphate of Cordoba (as the Islamic territory in Spain came to be called) collapsed and North African Muslims take over the territory, which brings us to the Moors as we typically think of them (ie Othello). The Crusades are after the period covered by the books. I believe the first crusade begins in 1059.Not so far. Its my goal to do some campaign models for the book. Covering a city in depth would also be tough because finding information on a city during that period, as well as a map either to use or as the basis for an artist rendering would both be pretty hard. Chuck</blockquote>

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