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Message: <blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5689335" data-attributes="member: 22424">Indeed. I'm pretty much convinced now that, in order to attract any decent numbers of new players, the core game really needs to present the simplest version of the game possible. Additional complexity can then be added in supplements, for those who want it.But going with approx 1,000 pages of core rules is just madness - the game shouldn't be that complex!Unfortunately, that's the necessary trade off. People like different things in gaming, and if the game becomes the really simple version I would like to see, with no option for further expansion, a huge number of people would immediately be turned off. I think you do need the scope to add those options to reasonably cover the bases.This is very true, and quite sad. In all honesty, I think the chances of WotC ever producing my ideal version of D&D are incredibly slim - they'll either parse out the core to an extent that you need many supplements to meaningfully play (even 4e was too limiting in the first three books, IMO), or they'll package every rules supplement as a "must-have". Either way, the game bloats in a manner that just doesn't interest me.</blockquote>