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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HolyMan" data-source="post: 5572812" data-attributes="member: 84167">Thanks for the look over (everyone knows I suck at math) Let me show you how I got my numbers.Where it describes shield bash it says "deals damage as if it were a weapon two size categories larger" then it goes on to say that a light shield would deal a d6 (up two from d3) and a heavy shield would deal d8 (up two from d4).I made my shield a heavy spiked one. So it deals d6 normally. And if you look the examples didn't go across on page 145 CORE they when two spots down the chart. So that's what I did. Now that I look at it though I think I should have used the Large column instead of the Medium column. Good catch and thanks. DMG is now 2d6.The shield is the primary weapon. The bite is treated as a primary natural attack.BAB +6/+1That is the first two shield attacks. Darn. Now I think to get a scimitar attack I need to take two weapon fighting? <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/erm.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":erm:" title="Erm    :erm:" data-shortname=":erm:" />So the BAB + shield stuff gives me +12/+7 (both shield attacks)Then I get my primary bite so +12/+7/+9Then I get my shield bash +12/+7/+9/+12And then I would get a scimitar attack!?!? Is this right? +12/+7/+3/+0/+12Now I'm confused. Let me try this again.BAB +6/+1STR +3/+3Shield Mastery +3/+3Standard attack (no extras) +12/+7Add Primary Bite: +12/+7/+9Add Shield Bash: +12/+7/+12Add Primary bite & Shield Bash: +12/+7/+9/+12Two Weapon Fighting:Shield/Shield/Scimitar +12/+7/+0Shield/Shield/Bite/Scimitar +12/+7/+3/+0Shield/Shield/Bite/Scimitar/Bash +12/+7/+3/+0/+12Well I am total confused. And it is all Shield Mastery's fault.Can anyone make headway with all that?HM</blockquote>

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