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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KerlanRayne" data-source="post: 5573797" data-attributes="member: 7776">Looking over this again, I think I have it down now. It should be:  +12 (Shield) / +7 (Shield) / + 4 (Bite) / +0 (Scimitar) The +12 / +7 are your shield attacks using BAB. Your Bite attack is at +4 because it is considered a secondary attack (+9 -5 = +4), your shield is the primary attack. The Scimitar would be at +0 because there is a -10 penalty to using a one handed weapon in the off hand. There is no penalty to the shield attacks because of the Shield Master feat. If you had Two Weapon Fighting then the penalty would only be -4. So in consolation to Leif, the fourth attack is only at +0 and is not likely to hit very often. Anyone with a bite attack can do this. If I had +6/+1 BAB I could use a Longsword and a Shortsword and use a bite attack giving me 4 attacks. Now without the proper feats the penalties would be pretty bad. He has a feat to prevent penalties with his shield, but not the Scimitar. I say give him the fourth attack. As for the alleged 5th attack, I don't know where he's getting that from. Hey HM, for some reason you seem to be adding a third shield attack on the end. Where is that coming from? Also, the reason for the bite attack is because it's FREE! It has no negative impact on any other attacks. No penalties whatsoever. Its FREE! Why not use it? The Scimitar attack is also FREE because of the feat that removes penalties from his Shield attacks.</blockquote>

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