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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Chrisling" data-source="post: 395399" data-attributes="member: 6816">Kamikaze Midget,I'm sensing a bit of projection, here.  ;pWhy should orcish culture have boggles with homosexuality?  Indeed, given the chaotic evil nature suggested in the basic source material, I think that homosexual rape amongst orcs is probably relatively common.  So, the "pansy" comments I think are irrelevant.I'm also wondering why anyone should accept the notion that orcs don't like beautiful things.  Again, is there anything in the basic nature of an orc that says, "Oh, they must hate beauty."  I'm not seeing it.  Sure, they might have a different aesthetic than people around them -- but to suggest they have no aeshethic isn't something I think is necessarily so.Also, Michaelangelo spent his time breaking up and heaving around marble.  Go ahead, try to kick his ass.  I strongly suspect he'll just use the hammer he was using to work his marble to work his attacker's skull.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />You also say stuff like, "Remember the legendary battle with the elves."  Again, this is not in any of the basic material about orcs.  Sure, those stories are common in many fantasy games -- but why should we think they are universal or that the story isn't massively slanted against the losers?There is also tremendous use for the artifacts of higher culture.  Studies of politics such as The Prince could be of tremendous value to an orcish warlord; as much value as to an Italian warlord.  History provides valuable lessons taken from the past.  Technical skill produces war machines and better arms and armor.  Improved farming and ranching allows people to spend more time working on war.  Improved architecture allows better castles, not to mention bridges and roads and such.  Orcs have all the reason in the world to get, keep and refine their culture; the same reasons the Romans had, and Egyptians, and everyone else . . . including us, today.*puts tongue firmly in cheek*  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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