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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7187365" data-attributes="member: 996">Yes, feats are optional, and UA feats moreso, and, from an optimization perspective, a fighter build can't 'afford' to invest in non-combat feats until it's maxxed its attack stat and acquired feats to support its style. Without feats, a bonus-ASI boost of a tertiary stat gives a simple +1 as compared to the more focused/meaningful/potent *doubling* of proficiency you can get from Expertise, or the manifold non-combat applications of spells &amp; rituals.&nbsp; While it is, in a literal, pedantic sense, something a fighter could do with his 6th level bonus ASI instead of taking a much more optimal feat or maxxing his STR or DEX two levels earlier, without being at stat/feat disadvantage vis a vis other tank/dpr classes, it's also pretty trivial.Saying the fighter 'doesn't support non-combat,' relative to other classes, is perfectly valid, and backed up the facts (the fighter has two features, at 6th &amp; 14th level, that can be dedicated either to combat, synergizing powerfully with the fighter's existing features, or to non-combat, barely shoring up the fighter's conspicuous lack of skill; other classes have features dedicated to non-combat functions, including non-combat rituals that don't consume slots, not to mentions extremely versatile spellcasting).&nbsp; Even saying that the Fighter has &quot;no support at all&quot; is much less misleading than implying that the support it does have is remotely adequate, though both are clearly exaggerations.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7187365, member: 996"] Yes, feats are optional, and UA feats moreso, and, from an optimization perspective, a fighter build can't 'afford' to invest in non-combat feats until it's maxxed its attack stat and acquired feats to support its style. Without feats, a bonus-ASI boost of a tertiary stat gives a simple +1 as compared to the more focused/meaningful/potent *doubling* of proficiency you can get from Expertise, or the manifold non-combat applications of spells & rituals. While it is, in a literal, pedantic sense, something a fighter could do with his 6th level bonus ASI instead of taking a much more optimal feat or maxxing his STR or DEX two levels earlier, without being at stat/feat disadvantage vis a vis other tank/dpr classes, it's also pretty trivial. Saying the fighter 'doesn't support non-combat,' relative to other classes, is perfectly valid, and backed up the facts (the fighter has two features, at 6th & 14th level, that can be dedicated either to combat, synergizing powerfully with the fighter's existing features, or to non-combat, barely shoring up the fighter's conspicuous lack of skill; other classes have features dedicated to non-combat functions, including non-combat rituals that don't consume slots, not to mentions extremely versatile spellcasting). Even saying that the Fighter has "no support at all" is much less misleading than implying that the support it does have is remotely adequate, though both are clearly exaggerations. [/QUOTE]

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