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<blockquote data-quote="Kemrain" data-source="post: 953453" data-attributes="member: 12153">As much as I'd like to help, I think that the Coup de Grace rules shouldn't be changed.&nbsp; I understand that you want to keep your PC's alive, and that's good, but, it's hard to shrug off a slit throat.&nbsp; If your PC's get into situations where thay can be CdG'd then, in a way, they deserve it.But since you want help, your first suggestion is decent.&nbsp; It becomes survivable with a decent fort save if you'd only have to make a save against, for example, 10 + 1d8 + 2 from strength.&nbsp; And if that doesn't kill them, then the crit damage may anyways.But, if they're in a situation where they're CdG-able anyways, what's to keep the attacker from just doing it again and again until they DO die?&nbsp; If they're helpless, they really have no chance of fighting back.&nbsp; Only if they had been alseep would I expect much of a struggle at all.&nbsp; Coup de Grace is deadly, because you can just sit and saw your opponent's face off if you need to. That's not ment to be survivable.The real trick is to avoid getting them into those situations, and for the most part, that's up to the players. Unless every time they sleep there are assassins coming after them, they can resist most attempts to render them helpless.&nbsp; It's the helpless they need to avoid, not the CdG.- Kemrain the Realist</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Kemrain, post: 953453, member: 12153"] As much as I'd like to help, I think that the Coup de Grace rules shouldn't be changed. I understand that you want to keep your PC's alive, and that's good, but, it's hard to shrug off a slit throat. If your PC's get into situations where thay can be CdG'd then, in a way, they deserve it. But since you want help, your first suggestion is decent. It becomes survivable with a decent fort save if you'd only have to make a save against, for example, 10 + 1d8 + 2 from strength. And if that doesn't kill them, then the crit damage may anyways. But, if they're in a situation where they're CdG-able anyways, what's to keep the attacker from just doing it again and again until they DO die? If they're helpless, they really have no chance of fighting back. Only if they had been alseep would I expect much of a struggle at all. Coup de Grace is deadly, because you can just sit and saw your opponent's face off if you need to. That's not ment to be survivable. The real trick is to avoid getting them into those situations, and for the most part, that's up to the players. Unless every time they sleep there are assassins coming after them, they can resist most attempts to render them helpless. It's the helpless they need to avoid, not the CdG. - Kemrain the Realist [/QUOTE]

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