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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Spatzimaus" data-source="post: 397745" data-attributes="member: 3051">I had actually made something very similar IMC.  When disbelieved it did zero damage and summoned stuff had 1 HP, same as yours.  to Mr. Fidgit: he's just following the pattern, the existing ones change by 20% per level.  It doesn't make it a glamer; notice that summoned stuff still has a hit point, it IS physically there, but just very tenuously woven together from Shadow matter.The problem is, these shadow spells are one level higher than the spells they can mimic, and that hurts you far more at lower levels than at high ones.  The dual saving throws make it too weak; one of the nice things about Shades (the level 6 one) is that even though it gives two saves, the slight increase in DC and 60% damage on disbelief actually keeps the average damage about the same.Let's say I use your Lesser Shadow Evocation to throw a Fireball.  Let's also say that it's DC 18 (I have an 18 INT and it's a 4th-level spell).  I'm fighting a guy with a +5 save in both Reflex and Will, meaning he needs a 13 to save either way (40% chance).  So, there's a 40% chance the spell does nothing (disbelief), a 24% chance the spell does half damage (believed but made save) and a 36% chance the spell does full damage.  Average damage, 48%.A straight Fireball has a DC of one less (45% chance of save); average damage, 77.5%.  So, by increasing a spell level, you decrease the average damage by about 40% in exchange for the flexibility.(I assumed for every Spell Focus or Headband of Intellect you have, the target has an Iron Will or Gloves of Dexterity, so the odds balanced)To make it worse, most characters have either a good Reflex save or a good Will save, so the average damage drops even further.Overall, still a nice set of spells.  Great for Sorcerers (especially the Lesser Shadow Evocation, since there are very few level 4 Evocations I'd want).  I added a few more IMC:Minor Shadow Magic: level 2, lets you cast any level 1 Sor/Wiz Conjuration OR Evocation at 0% reality on disbelief.Major Shadow Magic: level 8, lets you cast any level 1-6 Sor/Wiz Conjuration OR Evocation at 80% reality on disbeliefShadow Storm: level 9, cloud spell, does 4d6 Fire, 4d6 Cold, 4d6 Lightning, 2d6 Acid, and 2d6 Sonic damage (half on disbelief) to everyone inside(I wanted to add a regular Shadow Magic at 5 that mimics 1-3 spells at 40%, but it overlaps way too much with the existing spells IMHO)Add Shadow Walk at 7, and suddenly you have a Shadow Domain for Clerics (except that for them it mimics Cleric spells instead of Wizard ones).  Granted Power could be adding Hide/Move Silently to your class list or inherent Darkvision 60' or something.</blockquote>

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