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Let He Who Is Without Sin Cast the First Magic Missile: Why Gygax Still Matters to Me
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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 9450580" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>If you think medieval Europe has gotten ANYWHERE near as bad as the treatment of Arabic/Islamic and Eastern (India/China/Japan primarily, but Southeast Asia and Polynesia have gotten it too), then you truly do not understand the depths to which Orientalism would stoop.</p><p></p><p>There is no comparison. <em>At best</em>, you could argue that Celtic cultures have been flanderized like that--which wouldn't be too far off the mark, seeing as how the D&D Druid has jack-all to do with the actual defunct Iron Age Celtic priestly caste, and the "Barbarian" is literally derived from a racist Greek term for foreigners (who the Greeks heard as saying "bar bar bar" rather than speaking <em>civilized language</em>, that is, Greek.) But medieval European culture? This is practically copied straight out of their own self-propaganda. The Paladin, for example. (Though it's worth noting, that was propaganda targeted <em>at the knights themselves</em>, not at the peasantry. After all, most peasants couldn't read. The tales of courtly romance and knightly honor were propaganda to <em>get knights to behave themselves</em>, because terrorizing the people who make your food and work your land is a bad idea.)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 9450580, member: 6790260"] If you think medieval Europe has gotten ANYWHERE near as bad as the treatment of Arabic/Islamic and Eastern (India/China/Japan primarily, but Southeast Asia and Polynesia have gotten it too), then you truly do not understand the depths to which Orientalism would stoop. There is no comparison. [I]At best[/I], you could argue that Celtic cultures have been flanderized like that--which wouldn't be too far off the mark, seeing as how the D&D Druid has jack-all to do with the actual defunct Iron Age Celtic priestly caste, and the "Barbarian" is literally derived from a racist Greek term for foreigners (who the Greeks heard as saying "bar bar bar" rather than speaking [I]civilized language[/I], that is, Greek.) But medieval European culture? This is practically copied straight out of their own self-propaganda. The Paladin, for example. (Though it's worth noting, that was propaganda targeted [I]at the knights themselves[/I], not at the peasantry. After all, most peasants couldn't read. The tales of courtly romance and knightly honor were propaganda to [I]get knights to behave themselves[/I], because terrorizing the people who make your food and work your land is a bad idea.) [/QUOTE]
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