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<blockquote data-quote="ExploderWizard" data-source="post: 4500897" data-attributes="member: 66434">I agree with this in principle. That connection and attachment to a beloved character should be more than enough of a penalty for death. A little bit of xp loss as real world &quot;stakes&quot; adds a little bit of extra excitement though. &nbsp;The trick is achieving that connection with a set of rules that does its best to sever it with mechanics that reinforce the concept of gamism over all.&nbsp;The game board focus, retaining rules that really stress just what a meaningless collection of powers your character really is, and rules that fall apart when examined by even fantasy logic, all help to keep that connection from happening. &nbsp;I can feel the loss and disappointment when a character dies but that character needs to be part of an engaging game world that makes a bit of sense. &nbsp;Its not completely rules related though. I can get the same lack of attachment to a pre-generated character made up for a one-shot that I can with a 4E character created for campaign play. Thats the kind of detatchment that keeps story related consequences from meaning much.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ExploderWizard, post: 4500897, member: 66434"] I agree with this in principle. That connection and attachment to a beloved character should be more than enough of a penalty for death. A little bit of xp loss as real world "stakes" adds a little bit of extra excitement though. The trick is achieving that connection with a set of rules that does its best to sever it with mechanics that reinforce the concept of gamism over all. The game board focus, retaining rules that really stress just what a meaningless collection of powers your character really is, and rules that fall apart when examined by even fantasy logic, all help to keep that connection from happening. I can feel the loss and disappointment when a character dies but that character needs to be part of an engaging game world that makes a bit of sense. Its not completely rules related though. I can get the same lack of attachment to a pre-generated character made up for a one-shot that I can with a 4E character created for campaign play. Thats the kind of detatchment that keeps story related consequences from meaning much. [/QUOTE]

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