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<blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 4502716" data-attributes="member: 3192"><p>It sounds like you prefer acting out your character, while roleplaying him. When you say you can "play him wrong" I take you to mean you can portray the character poorly, not roleplay him poorly.</p><p></p><p>Playing a PC with personality is simply acting as someone other than yourself on top of role-playing. It isn't hard to mix the two, but when you start talking about "story experience" you've left RPGs behind. Stories don't happen in RPGs except when you have a biased DM warping the world to force you into certain behaviors and decisions. Stories are an impossibility for any kind of role-play as much as they are impossibe to create through living real life. To say I am creating story right now by existing is an error in rhetoric (one Snoweel made earlier in the thread). </p><p></p><p>There is no way to role-play "out of character" when role-playing. It is you, the player, who is the character. Everything you do, the PC does - no matter how you choose to <u>act</u> (portray) the character during this time. You can only <u>act</u> "out of character" when acting. When role-playing, the character always is "in character" no matter how you portray them. In other words, it isn't you, the player, who is acting "out of character", it is the character himself acting out of character (no quote marks, meaning: out of sorts) to others in the gameworld. This is exactly like you or I acting out of character (out of sorts) during real life. Only other characters in the game world can wonder why your PC did such things, the other players cannot. (though they may see some metagaming going on, like you playing to be an actor or playing towards any other player preference). </p><p></p><p>To repeat again, as the character <em>is</em> you in a RPG, it is impossible to <u>role-play</u> "out of character" without actually switching to a completely different PC and forgetting you did so. </p><p></p><p>If someone else were to role-play your PC for you, they could try and <u>act</u> like you do when you play the PC, but they cannot <u>role-play</u> you role-playing the PC. See the difference? They would not be portraying the character, they would be portraying you role-playing the character. If it were an acting game, they would simply take on the character as a separate entity and attempt to portray some outside characterization as any actor does when attempting to portray Hamlet for instance.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="howandwhy99, post: 4502716, member: 3192"] It sounds like you prefer acting out your character, while roleplaying him. When you say you can "play him wrong" I take you to mean you can portray the character poorly, not roleplay him poorly. Playing a PC with personality is simply acting as someone other than yourself on top of role-playing. It isn't hard to mix the two, but when you start talking about "story experience" you've left RPGs behind. Stories don't happen in RPGs except when you have a biased DM warping the world to force you into certain behaviors and decisions. Stories are an impossibility for any kind of role-play as much as they are impossibe to create through living real life. To say I am creating story right now by existing is an error in rhetoric (one Snoweel made earlier in the thread). There is no way to role-play "out of character" when role-playing. It is you, the player, who is the character. Everything you do, the PC does - no matter how you choose to [U]act[/U] (portray) the character during this time. You can only [U]act[/U] "out of character" when acting. When role-playing, the character always is "in character" no matter how you portray them. In other words, it isn't you, the player, who is acting "out of character", it is the character himself acting out of character (no quote marks, meaning: out of sorts) to others in the gameworld. This is exactly like you or I acting out of character (out of sorts) during real life. Only other characters in the game world can wonder why your PC did such things, the other players cannot. (though they may see some metagaming going on, like you playing to be an actor or playing towards any other player preference). To repeat again, as the character [I]is[/I] you in a RPG, it is impossible to [U]role-play[/U] "out of character" without actually switching to a completely different PC and forgetting you did so. If someone else were to role-play your PC for you, they could try and [U]act[/U] like you do when you play the PC, but they cannot [U]role-play[/U] you role-playing the PC. See the difference? They would not be portraying the character, they would be portraying you role-playing the character. If it were an acting game, they would simply take on the character as a separate entity and attempt to portray some outside characterization as any actor does when attempting to portray Hamlet for instance. [/QUOTE]
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