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<blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 5791712" data-attributes="member: 92511"><p>This should probably be a poll...but I can't really be bothered to figure out how to make one...or one that would be simple...so if someone wants to try to fork this thread/take that on, feel free!</p><p></p><p><em><strong>Let us assume</strong></em>, for the purposes of this thread, that the makers of 5e/Next/Dnd:TNG have decided, that for the sake of page space, limiting option bloat, starter simplicity, etc...they are going with the "tiered" model of books (or boxed sets).</p><p></p><p>A Beginner/Adventuer, Expert/Champion, Master/Hero.</p><p></p><p><em><strong>Let us also assume</strong></em>, that for the same reasons listed above, it is <em>set in stone</em> that there will be EIGHT (8) classes presented in the Beginner/Initially released material for the game.</p><p></p><p>Four of them are no-brainers and I wager would not warrant any argument:</p><p><strong>Class</strong> (Prime Ability, "Power Base/Category", Caster or Non-caster, Warrior-combat strong/leaning or Expert-knowledge strong/leaning)</p><p></p><p><strong>Fighter</strong> (Strength-based, "Martial", Non-caster, Warrior)</p><p><strong>Thief </strong>(Dex-based, "Stealth", Non-caster, Expert)</p><p><strong>Cleric</strong> (Wisdom-based, "Divine", Caster, Warrior)</p><p><strong>Mage </strong>(Int-based, "Arcane", Caster, Expert)</p><p></p><p>Ok?...Ok.</p><p></p><p><strong>What ONE (1) sub-class for each of these would you say make the cut?</strong></p><p></p><p>Not to worry, all of your other options are coming out in the next installment/expert set/whatever you want to call it.</p><p></p><p>But what single sub-class for each of these 4 bases would you want to include/are the most archetypical to fill out the other 4 spaces?</p><p></p><p>The fighter seems, to me, to be the most problematic, since there are so many varying types of fantasy warrior. On the flip side, Druid seems the "no-brainer" for the cleric-sub. </p><p></p><p>I think I might go with something like the following:</p><p></p><p><strong>Barbarian </strong>(as a nod to Conan's original impact/influence on the game: Str. & Con. Prime abilities, "Primal", Non-caster, Warrior)</p><p><strong>Avenger</strong> (a less-evil sounding assassin/thug/batman-esque rogue: Str. & Dex. Prime abilities, "Martial", Non-caster, Expert)</p><p><strong>Druid</strong> (Wis. & Con. Prime abilities, "Nature", Caster, Warrior)</p><p><strong>Witch</strong> (Int. & Con. Prime abilities, "Nature", Caster, Expert) </p><p></p><p>End up with 4 distinct non-casting classes, 4 casting classes, and a taste of various different "power bases" (again <em><strong>assuming</strong></em> such a thing is to be incorporated in distinguishing class flavor).</p><p></p><p>Then the Expert level set can get into: Paladins (Divine), Rangers (Nature), Bards (also Nature, I hope), Theurgists (Divine), Shamans (Primal), Illustionists/Necromancers/etc...(Arcane), Warlords (Martial, I'm going to hope), etc. etc.</p><p></p><p>I think 8 at a time seems like a nice array of choices without getting too bogged down in options.</p><p></p><p>But what would you all think?</p><p></p><p>1 sub-class for each of the base 4. Go!</p><p></p><p>--SD</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="steeldragons, post: 5791712, member: 92511"] This should probably be a poll...but I can't really be bothered to figure out how to make one...or one that would be simple...so if someone wants to try to fork this thread/take that on, feel free! [I][B]Let us assume[/B][/I], for the purposes of this thread, that the makers of 5e/Next/Dnd:TNG have decided, that for the sake of page space, limiting option bloat, starter simplicity, etc...they are going with the "tiered" model of books (or boxed sets). A Beginner/Adventuer, Expert/Champion, Master/Hero. [I][B]Let us also assume[/B][/I], that for the same reasons listed above, it is [I]set in stone[/I] that there will be EIGHT (8) classes presented in the Beginner/Initially released material for the game. Four of them are no-brainers and I wager would not warrant any argument: [B]Class[/B] (Prime Ability, "Power Base/Category", Caster or Non-caster, Warrior-combat strong/leaning or Expert-knowledge strong/leaning) [B]Fighter[/B] (Strength-based, "Martial", Non-caster, Warrior) [B]Thief [/B](Dex-based, "Stealth", Non-caster, Expert) [B]Cleric[/B] (Wisdom-based, "Divine", Caster, Warrior) [B]Mage [/B](Int-based, "Arcane", Caster, Expert) Ok?...Ok. [B]What ONE (1) sub-class for each of these would you say make the cut?[/B] Not to worry, all of your other options are coming out in the next installment/expert set/whatever you want to call it. But what single sub-class for each of these 4 bases would you want to include/are the most archetypical to fill out the other 4 spaces? The fighter seems, to me, to be the most problematic, since there are so many varying types of fantasy warrior. On the flip side, Druid seems the "no-brainer" for the cleric-sub. I think I might go with something like the following: [B]Barbarian [/B](as a nod to Conan's original impact/influence on the game: Str. & Con. Prime abilities, "Primal", Non-caster, Warrior) [B]Avenger[/B] (a less-evil sounding assassin/thug/batman-esque rogue: Str. & Dex. Prime abilities, "Martial", Non-caster, Expert) [B]Druid[/B] (Wis. & Con. Prime abilities, "Nature", Caster, Warrior) [B]Witch[/B] (Int. & Con. Prime abilities, "Nature", Caster, Expert) End up with 4 distinct non-casting classes, 4 casting classes, and a taste of various different "power bases" (again [I][B]assuming[/B][/I] such a thing is to be incorporated in distinguishing class flavor). Then the Expert level set can get into: Paladins (Divine), Rangers (Nature), Bards (also Nature, I hope), Theurgists (Divine), Shamans (Primal), Illustionists/Necromancers/etc...(Arcane), Warlords (Martial, I'm going to hope), etc. etc. I think 8 at a time seems like a nice array of choices without getting too bogged down in options. But what would you all think? 1 sub-class for each of the base 4. Go! --SD [/QUOTE]
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