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<blockquote data-quote="Plane Sailing" data-source="post: 5792830" data-attributes="member: 114"><p>I think that 3e introduced this problem with so-cheap-it's-practically-free scroll writing. </p><p></p><p>It made it easy for wizards to have lots of those utility spells on hand without the cost of taking up a valuable spell slot. </p><p></p><p>I don't remember people complaining in every previous edition how 'chime of opening' trod all over the rogue, although in the terms people speak of now, it 'did'. </p><p></p><p>Plus, many rogues have been quite happy to have magic disarm the traps and open the locks so they avoid the poison needle/ scything blade / exploding thingy. 1e and earlier rogues had an appalling life expectancy because they were expected to to this really dangerous job, on their own, while their mates hid up the corridor!</p><p></p><p>Bottom line, IMO; the problem isn't with spells which allow a one-off overcoming of a problem that another class would do. It is of scrolls which ,are it trivial to do so, along with a problematic bloody-minded ness amongst players who desire to trample on each others roles.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Plane Sailing, post: 5792830, member: 114"] I think that 3e introduced this problem with so-cheap-it's-practically-free scroll writing. It made it easy for wizards to have lots of those utility spells on hand without the cost of taking up a valuable spell slot. I don't remember people complaining in every previous edition how 'chime of opening' trod all over the rogue, although in the terms people speak of now, it 'did'. Plus, many rogues have been quite happy to have magic disarm the traps and open the locks so they avoid the poison needle/ scything blade / exploding thingy. 1e and earlier rogues had an appalling life expectancy because they were expected to to this really dangerous job, on their own, while their mates hid up the corridor! Bottom line, IMO; the problem isn't with spells which allow a one-off overcoming of a problem that another class would do. It is of scrolls which ,are it trivial to do so, along with a problematic bloody-minded ness amongst players who desire to trample on each others roles. [/QUOTE]
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