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<blockquote data-quote="TerraDave" data-source="post: 5786145" data-attributes="member: 22260">this may or may not be self explanatoryEDIT: Ok, below is sort of a list of all the main choices for the game, on both the DM and Player side. Couple of questions: 1)what would you choose2) what else could be here, or what is here that you don't expect to see. 4d6, keep best--&gt;point buy------------------&gt;More generous but random------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; 3d6 in order------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Alt char gen (life path, 0 level test characters, etc)Ability scores--&gt;Simple Skills--&gt;More involved Skills------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Skill challenges------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Non combat conflict rules------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Old school, roll less approachStandard Races--&gt; Feat customizable races------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Flexible race features------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Variant, non core, races and sub-races------------------&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp; Themes, origins, backgrounds, etc&nbsp;Standard Classes --&gt; Feat customizable classes (--&gt; custom/point buy classes)------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Flexible class features------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Variant, non core, classes------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Variant power sources (psionics, alt magic systems)----------------(--&gt; see themes above)9 alignments--&gt; that matters somewhat------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Or not------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Or are differentSpells for some --&gt; Powers for more------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Combat maneuvers ------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Meta-magic----------------(--&gt; Variant power sources (psionics, alt magic systems)“BECMI with ascending AC” combat --&gt; more grid oriented, attacks of opportunity combat------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Action points------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; (more interesting) crits and fumbles------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Parry rolls, facing, other combat options------------------&gt;Alt defenses (static if saves default…)------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; (see power and maneuvers above)Healing daily, or with a cleric --&gt; more generous resting rules------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Surges------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Wound systemDrop at 0, dead at -10 --&gt; dead at this…or that…but not quite yet------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; 0=deadOpponents in a monster book --&gt; have simple underlying math and can be adjusted easily------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; “built” with some workStandard equipment --&gt; superior/exotic items------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Odd and inferior items------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Alchemical items------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Encumbrance--&gt; bulk systemDefault treasure set by DM--&gt; that can sometimes be made or bought------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Formally influenced by PCs------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Cursed------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Intelligent------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Artifact------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Trade goods and non-standard treasure ------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Alternate rewards (titles, etc)------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Ray guns and flying carsAdventure with the party--&gt; +trusted retainers------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Followers, some day------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; A castle, some day------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; A domain, some day------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Complications (ie a personal life) ------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Contacts (with rules for them) Minimal default setting --&gt; Elaborated default------------------&gt;Homebrew------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Published setting------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Default cosmology --&gt;Alt cosmology</blockquote>

[QUOTE="TerraDave, post: 5786145, member: 22260"] this may or may not be self explanatory EDIT: Ok, below is sort of a list of all the main choices for the game, on both the DM and Player side. Couple of questions: 1)what would you choose 2) what else could be here, or what is here that you don't expect to see. 4d6, keep best-->point buy [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]-->More generous but random [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> 3d6 in order [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Alt char gen (life path, 0 level test characters, etc) Ability scores-->Simple Skills-->More involved Skills [COLOR="Black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Skill challenges [COLOR="Black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Non combat conflict rules [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Old school, roll less approach Standard Races--> Feat customizable races [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Flexible race features [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Variant, non core, races and sub-races [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Themes, origins, backgrounds, etc Standard Classes --> Feat customizable classes (--> custom/point buy classes) [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Flexible class features [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Variant, non core, classes [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Variant power sources (psionics, alt magic systems) [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR](--> see themes above) 9 alignments--> that matters somewhat [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Or not [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Or are different Spells for some --> Powers for more [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Combat maneuvers [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Meta-magic [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR](--> Variant power sources (psionics, alt magic systems) “BECMI with ascending AC” combat --> more grid oriented, attacks of opportunity combat [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Action points [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> (more interesting) crits and fumbles [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Parry rolls, facing, other combat options [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]-->Alt defenses (static if saves default…) [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> (see power and maneuvers above) Healing daily, or with a cleric --> more generous resting rules [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Surges [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Wound system Drop at 0, dead at -10 --> dead at this…or that…but not quite yet [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> 0=dead Opponents in a monster book --> have simple underlying math and can be adjusted easily [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> “built” with some work Standard equipment --> superior/exotic items [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Odd and inferior items [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Alchemical items [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Encumbrance--> bulk system Default treasure set by DM--> that can sometimes be made or bought [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Formally influenced by PCs [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Cursed [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Intelligent [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Artifact [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Trade goods and non-standard treasure [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Alternate rewards (titles, etc) [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Ray guns and flying cars Adventure with the party--> +trusted retainers [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Followers, some day [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> A castle, some day [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> A domain, some day [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Complications (ie a personal life) [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Contacts (with rules for them) Minimal default setting --> Elaborated default [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]-->Homebrew [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Published setting [COLOR="black"]----------------[/COLOR]--> Default cosmology -->Alt cosmology [/QUOTE]

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