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<blockquote data-quote="bringerofbroom" data-source="post: 5788299" data-attributes="member: 55812">4d6, keep best--&gt;point buy------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; More generous but random------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; 3d6 in order------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Alt char gen (life path, 0 level test characters, etc)in Core, no stat rolls or points - you have a pick up and play character. changes can be dealt with on levelling up.&nbsp; For more advanced rules, a point buy. Ability scores--&gt;Simple Skills--&gt;More involved Skills------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Skill challenges------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Non combat conflict rules------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Old school, roll less approachSkills as a modified ability check. Standard Races--&gt; Feat customizable races------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Flexible race features------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Variant, non core, races and sub-races------------------&gt; Themes, origins, backgrounds, etcCore with standard races, built using a standardised build system available in the advanced rules. Standard Classes --&gt; Feat customizable classes (--&gt; custom/point buy classes)------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Flexible class features------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Variant, non core, classes------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Variant power sources (psionics, alt magic systems)----------------(--&gt; see themes above)Core with standard classes, built using a standardised build system available in the advanced rules. 9 alignments--&gt; that matters somewhat------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Or not------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Or are differentAlignment should be something that is only labelled on the truly extreme ( Demons et al ) but should have a pronounced mechanical effect in that case. Basically, if you are tagged as EVIL, you are a walking zone of unholiness, and vice versa. Spells for some --&gt; Powers for more------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Combat maneuvers ------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Meta-magic----------------(--&gt; Variant power sources (psionics, alt magic systems)Yes.&nbsp; But you dont NEED them for a good character. A Core wizard has a few powers ( eg magic missile, mage hand ) that can scale with level or can be added to by getting additional powers and/or spells ( and spells in this form being similar to 4e rituals ).&nbsp; There should be lots of options, hopefully reasonably well balanced gainst each other. “BECMI with ascending AC” combat --&gt; more grid oriented, attacks of opportunity combat------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Action points------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; (more interesting) crits and fumbles------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Parry rolls, facing, other combat options------------------&gt;Alt defenses (static if saves default…)------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; (see power and maneuvers above)Change the descriptions for ranges et al in combat back to real world measures rather than squares/hexes, so you do not NEED a grid to run a fight. Action points are good, as they can increase drama, and represent the last minute comeback attacks in a good dramatic fight. The way i imagine combat to end up is that the Core combat rules will be the complex combat rules available in the advanced options, but with a number of assumptions built in so they dont need to be accounted for in core combat. Healing daily, or with a cleric --&gt; more generous resting rules------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Surges------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Wound systemNo Surges, or surges only from Action points. Drop at 0, dead at -10 --&gt; dead at this…or that…but not quite yet------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; 0=deadKO at any hit points. some mechanic needs to be in place so that a character can be knocked out whilst still having all their hit points.&nbsp; at 0 hit points you go in to death states, and even if you survive going to 0 or below, there need to be consequences. Opponents in a monster book --&gt; have simple underlying math and can be adjusted easily------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; “built” with some workSounds good. a system to Build and modify monsters, along with a collection of monsters built with said system would be a great boon. Standard equipment --&gt; superior/exotic items------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Odd and inferior items------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Alchemical items------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Encumbrance--&gt; bulk systemin Core, standard equipment. in Advanced, all the above. Default treasure set by DM--&gt; that can sometimes be made or bought------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Formally influenced by PCs------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Cursed------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Intelligent------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Artifact------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Trade goods and non-standard treasure ------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Alternate rewards (titles, etc)------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Ray guns and flying carsAll of the above. Keep just Default treasure sets in Core, the rest in Advanced, although modifiable to suit the setting. Adventure with the party--&gt; +trusted retainers------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Followers, some day------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; A castle, some day------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; A domain, some day------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Complications (ie a personal life) ------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Contacts (with rules for them) All of the above. Core is the party and maybe some retainers. The rest in advanced. Minimal default setting --&gt; Elaborated default------------------&gt;Homebrew------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Published setting------------------&gt;&nbsp; &nbsp; Default cosmology --&gt;Alt cosmologyEnough in the initial starter set / DM book to run a small region ( along the lines of Nentir Vale ). Some setting design rules in advanced, and a Worldbuilders guide later on. __________________</blockquote>

[QUOTE="bringerofbroom, post: 5788299, member: 55812"] 4d6, keep best-->point buy ------------------> More generous but random ------------------> 3d6 in order ------------------> [B]Alt char gen (life path, 0 level test characters, etc)[/B] in Core, no stat rolls or points - you have a pick up and play character. changes can be dealt with on levelling up. For more advanced rules, a point buy. Ability scores-->Simple Skills-->More involved Skills ------------------> Skill challenges ------------------> Non combat conflict rules ------------------> Old school, roll less approach Skills as a modified ability check. Standard Races--> Feat customizable races ------------------> Flexible race features ------------------> Variant, non core, races and sub-races ------------------> Themes, origins, backgrounds, etc Core with standard races, built using a standardised build system available in the advanced rules. Standard Classes --> Feat customizable classes (--> custom/point buy classes) ------------------> Flexible class features ------------------> Variant, non core, classes ------------------> Variant power sources (psionics, alt magic systems) ----------------(--> see themes above) Core with standard classes, built using a standardised build system available in the advanced rules. 9 alignments--> that matters somewhat ------------------> Or not ------------------> Or are different Alignment should be something that is only labelled on the truly extreme ( Demons et al ) but should have a pronounced mechanical effect in that case. Basically, if you are tagged as EVIL, you are a walking zone of unholiness, and vice versa. Spells for some --> Powers for more ------------------> Combat maneuvers ------------------> Meta-magic ----------------(--> Variant power sources (psionics, alt magic systems) Yes. But you dont NEED them for a good character. A Core wizard has a few powers ( eg magic missile, mage hand ) that can scale with level or can be added to by getting additional powers and/or spells ( and spells in this form being similar to 4e rituals ). There should be lots of options, hopefully reasonably well balanced gainst each other. “BECMI with ascending AC” combat --> more grid oriented, attacks of opportunity combat ------------------> Action points ------------------> (more interesting) crits and fumbles ------------------> Parry rolls, facing, other combat options ------------------>Alt defenses (static if saves default…) ------------------> (see power and maneuvers above) Change the descriptions for ranges et al in combat back to real world measures rather than squares/hexes, so you do not NEED a grid to run a fight. Action points are good, as they can increase drama, and represent the last minute comeback attacks in a good dramatic fight. The way i imagine combat to end up is that the Core combat rules will be the complex combat rules available in the advanced options, but with a number of assumptions built in so they dont need to be accounted for in core combat. Healing daily, or with a cleric --> more generous resting rules ------------------> Surges ------------------> Wound system No Surges, or surges only from Action points. Drop at 0, dead at -10 --> dead at this…or that…but not quite yet ------------------> 0=dead KO at any hit points. some mechanic needs to be in place so that a character can be knocked out whilst still having all their hit points. at 0 hit points you go in to death states, and even if you survive going to 0 or below, there need to be consequences. Opponents in a monster book --> have simple underlying math and can be adjusted easily ------------------> “built” with some work Sounds good. a system to Build and modify monsters, along with a collection of monsters built with said system would be a great boon. Standard equipment --> superior/exotic items ------------------> Odd and inferior items ------------------> Alchemical items ------------------> Encumbrance--> bulk system in Core, standard equipment. in Advanced, all the above. Default treasure set by DM--> that can sometimes be made or bought ------------------> Formally influenced by PCs ------------------> Cursed ------------------> Intelligent ------------------> Artifact ------------------> Trade goods and non-standard treasure ------------------> Alternate rewards (titles, etc) ------------------> Ray guns and flying cars All of the above. Keep just Default treasure sets in Core, the rest in Advanced, although modifiable to suit the setting. Adventure with the party--> +trusted retainers ------------------> Followers, some day ------------------> A castle, some day ------------------> A domain, some day ------------------> Complications (ie a personal life) ------------------> Contacts (with rules for them) All of the above. Core is the party and maybe some retainers. The rest in advanced. Minimal default setting --> Elaborated default ------------------>Homebrew ------------------> Published setting ------------------> Default cosmology -->Alt cosmology Enough in the initial starter set / DM book to run a small region ( along the lines of Nentir Vale ). Some setting design rules in advanced, and a Worldbuilders guide later on. __________________ [/QUOTE]

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