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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Krachek" data-source="post: 9066494" data-attributes="member: 6811643">My view on lethality for editions.1ed. Vietnam war. The DM is the sergent, the players the recruits in a Boot Camp. reference movie: Full metal jacket.3ed. The players have at last access to the rules. The key to survive was the rules mastery, and often the fierce fight was not against monster, but against the DM on a rule interpretation. At the end the Wizard win and became a god. reference movie The Matrix.4ed. WoW. Frankly it’s a video game that shape the game play. you can’t die in Wow. You can only fail or run out ressources,5ed dying is no more a concern, the real concern is to play fully his character concept. reference Critical role show, Harry Potter Saga.NeoLethalLethality make some come back. OSR, new game like ShadowDark push on lethality like a new fresh experience. You don’t die in shame, you die like in a show, Reference movie : Suicide Squad, The mission.</blockquote>