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Message: <blockquote data-quote="overgeeked" data-source="post: 9067569" data-attributes="member: 86653">Yes, they are. Especially given that not a single method of generating scores guarantees at least two 15s. And not a single line in the DMG supports your reading of the PHB.Look, if you want to house rule things, that’s fine. It’s your table. But the book doesn’t say what you’re claiming.AD&D DMG p11:“Method I: All scores are recorded and arranged in the order the player desires. 4d6 are rolled, and the lowest die (or one of the lower) is discarded.Method II: All scores are recorded and arranged as in Method I. 3d6 are rolled 12 times and the highest 6 scores are retained.Method III: Scores rolled are according to each ability category, in order, STRENGTH, INTELLIGENCE, WISDOM, DEXTERITY, CONSTITUTION, CHARISMA. 3d6 are rolled 6 times for each ability, and the highest score in each category is retained for that category.Method IV: 3d6 are rolled sufficient times to generate the 6 ability scores, in order, for 12 characters. The player then selects the single set of scores which he or she finds most desirable and these scores are noted on the character record sheet.”Please point to the line where the DMG tells the DM to have the player keep rolling until they get two 15s. Yes, some of those methods give PCs a good chance for high stats, but there’s nothing about just keep rolling until you get two 15s.Then Gary would have said so. He did not. Note how none of the listed methods guarantee any given numbers. We know Gary knew his numbers and probabilities as he gives a detailed breakdown of various dice and their probabilities. So if Gary wanted at least two 15s he could have listed that in the DMG…and yet he did not.</blockquote>

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