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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Necrofumbler" data-source="post: 9070001" data-attributes="member: 6923702">Doubt it about the pendulum swing. If anything, the game is moving to an even greater level of "epic unkillable superheroes" play style.My main beef with 5E is that there are way too many "story tropes" that get utterly broken by commonly available very low level spells. The game is HEAVILY geared towards a "Let's sweep all that Social and Exploration pillar stuff under the rug so that we can get to the next fight ASAP" type of playstyle.Any "Gritty Survival" style campaign simply gets kicked in the balls, hard. Infinite Light Cantrips = No more light management required.Tiny Hut = no more finding a good campaign site required.Create Food & Water = No more hunting forgaging or fishing required, and deserts stop being any threat.Mending = no more dealing with broken gear required.Speak with dead = No more need to capture an enemy then interrogate him through good roleplaying, just kill him then "read its memories like an open book".Actually needing to Travel somewhere? Nah. Overland Flight the party, Summon a few Pegasi, or outright Teleport.Crafting stuff and needing to find, and roleplay with, a master NPC artisan?  then waiting weeks and also payng him for his work? Nah that's stupid just Fabricate it in 1 round, for FREE. Basically making the wizzy the best uber artisan in the entire world, for all crafts, instantly.Why build a thick walled medieval castle for TONS of thousands of gold pieces when... Transmute Rock to Mud, Spider Climb, Fly, Passwall, etc. meanwhile poor mister Fighter will "break his sword". If you allow a  magic user to do all those things, then allow my fighter to be just as badass and able to do just as legendary epic stuff, and slice that castle's high tower in HALF with a single sword strike. allow my rogue to pass easiily under doors and through tiny wall cracks using "mere shadows".And so on, and on, and on, and on, and on.Magic would be ok if the magic user was good at ONE type of magic, not a uber god for almost EVERY type of magic in existence. Or if magic actually "only" somewhat boosted something already there, by a small but reasonable factor, instead of being so many orders of magnitude better that it ends up completely stealing the show.For example with Fabricate,  it could make an artisan work better and faster, and for a lower cost. Even a mere "Artisan rolls with Advantage, working twice as fast for half the price", that would already be a HUGE effect.What's the point of being a Rogue trying to climb a high wall with a dangerous hard Climb DC, for a bit of movement over several rounds, when the party Wizard can just cast Spider Climb or Fly and 100% safe run accross the distance in a dinslge round, no check needed or danger involved? Trying to open a very hard trapped locked chest, when the wizzy can just 100% no check required just Knock it open from a distance? Trying to Stealth when magic gives invisibility instead?Magic should BOOST a prexisting cappacity by some amount. And not by "several orders of magnitude", but a reasonably low (but still noticeable) factor.Just go to TV Tropes, find a few nice story tropes, and then see how many low levels spells utterly ruin it.If you run a D&D campaign as a series of predetermined-story-driven battles, with the style of "PCs as greater than life superheroes", with next to no downtime in between the battles, then yeah, it works. But not other types.My main beef is thhe casters totally nuking that "secondary random encounter o nthe way to the dungeon", making it 100% a trivial waste of time. Nah. Make that choice to "waste" spell slot there actually COUNT. Wizards should be likec in the Gauntlet video arcade game, casting spells one after another almost nbon-stop, but using their brains and using their precious spell slots only where they count most. But with only 1-2 enncountewrs per long rest, those sppell slots aren't "precious" nor actually require any brains at all as you can just spam them most of the time. Not at level 1, sure. But even by level 5, even casting spells as much as they could every round, PLUS using multiple spells per each non-combat encounter, our Dragon Heist casters were NEVER lacking for spell slots.Now, if the game made sure the "per long rest" capabilities were recovered only once over 4-8 encounters occured, suddenly that changes a lot how the casters would behave.Bbut that ain't gonna happen, if anything 1DnD iss addding even more power creep. "Player feedback" uses a "1 feedback, 1 vote" approach. But there are at least 5 times as many players as DMs, and DMS are way better placed to determine what is good for a campaign, and work way hardewr to make campaiggnbs more succesful, than players mainly just comin to play and tending to focusing a lot more on what feels good for their own character aka more even more powerful options, rather than on what is good for the campaign as a whole. Try it, ask your players what they want, then add it all, straight up. Lather rinse repeat. And watch your campaign inevitably and quickly crash & burn. Then the players blame the DM. PLAYERS JUST DO NOT KNOW WHAT THEY REALLY WANT.So IMHO actual DM feedback should count as about 20-30 times "more important" than normal players feedback.But that ain't what's happening. Catering to PLAYERS always sold a lot more books DMs than catering to DMs.</blockquote>

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