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<blockquote data-quote="Stormonu" data-source="post: 5774173" data-attributes="member: 52734">I'm not quite sure what I want as far as lethality either.As a casual DM/player, I'm not interested in every combat being a knock-down, drag-out brawl where the PCs emerge from the fight with a bloody stump of a fist dribbling a few hit points.At the other extreme, I don't want them to dismiss the enemy as &quot;pathetic&quot; or &quot;weak&quot;.I do not like in 4E how it seems characters drop multiple times in the same the combat.&nbsp; But I also don't having to wear through bags of hit points to take enemies down.&nbsp; 3E's (and previous editions) save-or-die effects aren't all that fun if you're the recipient.3E and 4E had the problem that at the higher levels hit points could be inflated to absurd amounts.&nbsp; Damage to had to scale dramatically as well or it just became a slugfest.&nbsp; Capping hit points for PC's around 10th level was one of the original game's better decisions, and I'd like to see that return.&nbsp; I think that change would help bring some lethality back to the game while still make characters (and monsters) durable, while also cutting back on number bloat that has to occur to keep up with inflating hp.I'm leery of instant death effects;&nbsp; I'd like to see such effects follow more along the lines with 4E's &quot;three strikes and your out&quot; approach to such deadly effects (scaled by CR, not a static 10+).&nbsp; Going out on one bad roll can be just bad luck - I've seen it happen several times.&nbsp; Going out because of three generally means you've really run into something nasty.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Stormonu, post: 5774173, member: 52734"] I'm not quite sure what I want as far as lethality either. As a casual DM/player, I'm not interested in every combat being a knock-down, drag-out brawl where the PCs emerge from the fight with a bloody stump of a fist dribbling a few hit points. At the other extreme, I don't want them to dismiss the enemy as "pathetic" or "weak". I do not like in 4E how it seems characters drop multiple times in the same the combat. But I also don't having to wear through bags of hit points to take enemies down. 3E's (and previous editions) save-or-die effects aren't all that fun if you're the recipient. 3E and 4E had the problem that at the higher levels hit points could be inflated to absurd amounts. Damage to had to scale dramatically as well or it just became a slugfest. Capping hit points for PC's around 10th level was one of the original game's better decisions, and I'd like to see that return. I think that change would help bring some lethality back to the game while still make characters (and monsters) durable, while also cutting back on number bloat that has to occur to keep up with inflating hp. I'm leery of instant death effects; I'd like to see such effects follow more along the lines with 4E's "three strikes and your out" approach to such deadly effects (scaled by CR, not a static 10+). Going out on one bad roll can be just bad luck - I've seen it happen several times. Going out because of three generally means you've really run into something nasty. [/QUOTE]

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