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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Haffrung Helleyes" data-source="post: 1681440" data-attributes="member: 1068">I'm not going to read 9 pages of this...but I agree completely with Thanee's initial post.In my last campaign (which lasted a year), I made all the Teleport spells caster only, and bumped them all by two levels (Teleport 7th, Greater Teleport 9th).  I also bumped Fly to 4th level.Guess what?  one of the most popular 4th level spells anyone took was fly, and the first 7th level spell the wizard took was Teleport.I don't support banning the spells completely because I think it takes too much away from the wizard's theme.  What you want to avoid is the 'we teleport in and attack immediately swat-team tactics that a high level party can use as a group.Ken</blockquote>