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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Jester David" data-source="post: 7386404" data-attributes="member: 37579">Cool. Nice math. Thanks.I do wonder about the damage when not paired with a rogue, which seems like a poor baseline. Anyhoo… meanwhile, my warlord is also proccing Tactical Acumen every round, using that reaction when the ally hits to deal an additional Int + level on every attack. Which, at level 10, is 15 damage.Which more than makes up for the difference in frequency. (Actually, I might need to tone down the damage in Tactical Acumen. After the 15 rounds they're up 75 points. Plus, TA is pretty reliable given it can be used to boost damage even when the granted attack misses, switching to a different ally.)Why play a Tactician rather than a Battle Master? Well, because your BM example requires that fighter to also be attacking fifteen times themselves. So they're not really the Lazylord commanding from the back. They're up there in the front attacking as well. Again, my warlord lazylord subclass can also grant movement at 3rd level. Plus all the other abilities. Tactical Acumen. Stratagem. So then don't. Or give useful feedback I can use to actually make it better beyond telling me it sucks without actually bothering to read the entire class. Or trying to make me design the warlord exactly how it was in 4e. I'm not going to do that. Just like I'm also not going to exactly replicate the marshal from 3e. The 5e warlord/tactician should kill the 4e warlord and take his stuff. It should keep what works and dump the rest, making something new and exciting that captures the feel of the concept. My warlord doesn’t have heavy armour. It only has Medium.BUT I'm just working on the Vanguard subclass that gives it heavy armour—like the War domain gives the cleric heavy armour—and making that into a tank subclass. Why is it in heavy armour when it wasn’t before?BECAUSE IT’S NOT “BEFORE”. Brace yourself for a shock. 5th Edition is not the same as 4th Edition. It does things differently. A 5e warlord won't add half its level to all checks. Or add its Constitution Score to its starting hit points. Or have a Fortitude Defence. Or have healing surges. It probably have AEDU powers. And, sadly, it won't have powers that trigger when an ally spends an Action Surge. Which was probably the TRUE iconic power of the warlord. Because when you spent your Action Surge by the warlord, you felt like a god. No. No you don't.If you REALLY wanted one you would have made your own damn warlord class. That's literally what this thread is for. Instead you gave my warlord a quick skim and decided to crap on it because it doesn't match your vision. That's fine. It's how I envision the concept. You don't have to like it. But if you think it's so terrible then show me something better. FrogReaver called me out for not contributing and I threw together the Tactician class that you see in a week. If you have such a powerful vision for the warlord I'm sure you could do the same in half that time. Show me how it's done. Give me a warlord that's true to 4e but balanced with 5e and matches the design conventions of this edition.</blockquote>

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