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Message: <blockquote data-quote="hbarsquared" data-source="post: 6117868" data-attributes="member: 4550">Disagree, on all counts.  I do not see it being a one-time value.  My group and I would not only get enjoyment in playing through these "apprentice levels" for session or two the first time we unbox 5e, but I can easily visualize us, and plenty of other experienced groups, having fun playing through those levels, as well.  Many on these forums have said something to this effect, too.  Everyone will not skip to level 3, and I definitely don't see "the vast majority of players" doing this.It is also not about dumb players.  It's one: about bringing new players in, and two: about gradually introducing concepts in a more concrete way.  Think about it: two sessions!  This is probably the average time any new player, including smart ones, truly gets a hold and understanding on their character's abilities.  Now it's just more codified into the level structure.I also believe that gradually introducing abilities has the potential to lead to more roleplaying, instead of players constantly looking at their character sheets for that long list of abilities to choose to decide on the "best" way to react to a situation.This is also not about "Vietnam style" characters, or "super-fragile" characters.  It's about understandably fragile 1st-level characters.  It's about that sense of danger, a real sense of failure, and overcoming those odds.  It's about that knuckle-biting that we all felt when playing our first characters, precisely because they were so comparatively weak.  That fear, that adrenaline, is just as important--if not more important--to getting new players hooked as game mechanics.And yes, I agree with this (the first part).  It works for multiclassing, it enables more playstyles, it reinforces 1st-level fragility, and it makes for a smooth, understandable, and intuitive system.</blockquote>

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