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Message: <blockquote data-quote="zoggynog" data-source="post: 5788968" data-attributes="member: 65861">For a follow up thread that should have already exploded into hate from the FR faithful...I must add to those that agree.I have been playing purely homebrew most of my life but something happened when I started up 4e.  I found the "Point of Light" setting interesting because it started to merge several previous settings into one.  Maybe not in great detail...but the thought was there.I started to really get into the ideas of Ravenloft and Planescape and its ties to 4e core.I hear they bastardized Planescape pretty bad (to fit the new lax alignment structure?) but the incorporation of Sigil into core 4e and the Domains of Dread in the Shadowfell hit a right note for me.As far as I'm concerned, I DO think Greyhawk would make a great retro starting point.I purpose the following:5e core setting takes place as an alternate reality of what happens after 3e lore.No spell plague occurs in FR.No destruction of "The Wheel" from "Die Vecna Die" (that's how they explain it right?)  All Planes go back to how they were in 3ePlanescape guilds were not kicked out by Lady of Pain, Planescape stays very true to what it was when it came out.Greyhawk is core setting, but perhaps the Feywild/Shadowfell is worked into Greyhawk?. Can this be done without screwing Greyhawk lore?  If not, perhaps incorporate the feel of those to places into "newly discovered" parts of the Greyhawk world? I'm spitballing here.  Feel free to squish this idea Greyhawkers...Ravenloft's Barovia once existed in Greyhawk.  Account for its disappearance in Greyhawk lore...and perhaps expand on what was left behind.Also, the Hollow World  setting takes place deep beneath Greyhawk.Sigil/Planescape is supported early on, it acts as a "bridge to anywhere" that merges Dark Sun, Eberron, FR, Dragonlance, The domains of dread (Ravenloft), and any new WoTC/Homebrew setting.Spelljammer ships are used to travel the Astral Plane and hop planets without teleporting through Sigil.These settings are all on different worlds, but part of one reality.In another reality exists the various settings/story lines played out in 4e.Sigil can optionally (DM's call) even merge these two realities.  A character knows which reality they come from depending on if they can see the Spire of Outlands.Thoughts <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></blockquote>

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