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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 5789037" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>I think Morrus' OP was a bit flippantly dismissive of the Realms as a setting (and, by extension, its hardcore fans), and the Realms isn't truly better or worse a "generic" setting than any other, including Greyhawk and Dragonlance . . . barring individual tastes of course. Kind of an unnecessary FR bashing just to get to the thesis that Greyhawk should be the default setting, which I actually agree with. A lot of us take our D&D settings quite seriously, as anyone who spends even a small amount of time on these boards already knows.</p><p></p><p>But, Morrus is right in the end, that Greyhawk should be the default setting of D&D Next. Go back to what 3E tried with the setting in 2000 (my god, has it been over a decade!?!) but without the later setting dilution 3E went through after the 3.5 launch. I wouldn't mind if WotC rebooted the setting back to "start" and maybe even redesigned parts of it (a la "New Trek") . . . but Greyhawk in the core books should be "Greyhawk Lite", just as it was at the beginning of 3E. More detailed support could always come in the magazines.</p><p></p><p>Of course, we don't know what WotC is planning for the default setting of 5E, nothing announced yet truly suggests it will be FR. FR is a popular setting due to the video games, novels, and yes, Drizzt, and deserves to receive full support, just not as the default setting. If you don't like it, don't buy it! But please, no more rebooting, despite the fact it's an FR tradition come edition change. Keep the current post-Spellplague setting and keep moving forward.</p><p></p><p>I would love to see a small run of quality Dragonlance books for the next edition, but a full line would be too much. Sorry, but Dragonlance really is a (almost) one-trick pony (although a great ride) . . . just like Star Wars, later Dragonlance products try too hard to recapture the magic rather than truly expand the setting beyond the Companions of the Lance.</p><p></p><p>Other settings have their fans, including myself, but I don't see print support as realistic for any of them. But I would very much like to see support in the magazines for all of the classic settings. Maybe even mini "Player's Handbooks" for each setting detailing specific races, classes, etc, etc . . .</p><p></p><p>Most importantly, regardless of what becomes the default setting and how much print/online support other settings get . . . WotC should not be afraid to introduce new material that doesn't fit into any existing setting. Give us some DDI articles about new gods, organizations, cities, etc without worry about fitting them into the core, FR, or anything else. There should be not "setting" limits on new material . . . mostly for DDI of course, in print would be different.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 5789037, member: 18182"] I think Morrus' OP was a bit flippantly dismissive of the Realms as a setting (and, by extension, its hardcore fans), and the Realms isn't truly better or worse a "generic" setting than any other, including Greyhawk and Dragonlance . . . barring individual tastes of course. Kind of an unnecessary FR bashing just to get to the thesis that Greyhawk should be the default setting, which I actually agree with. A lot of us take our D&D settings quite seriously, as anyone who spends even a small amount of time on these boards already knows. But, Morrus is right in the end, that Greyhawk should be the default setting of D&D Next. Go back to what 3E tried with the setting in 2000 (my god, has it been over a decade!?!) but without the later setting dilution 3E went through after the 3.5 launch. I wouldn't mind if WotC rebooted the setting back to "start" and maybe even redesigned parts of it (a la "New Trek") . . . but Greyhawk in the core books should be "Greyhawk Lite", just as it was at the beginning of 3E. More detailed support could always come in the magazines. Of course, we don't know what WotC is planning for the default setting of 5E, nothing announced yet truly suggests it will be FR. FR is a popular setting due to the video games, novels, and yes, Drizzt, and deserves to receive full support, just not as the default setting. If you don't like it, don't buy it! But please, no more rebooting, despite the fact it's an FR tradition come edition change. Keep the current post-Spellplague setting and keep moving forward. I would love to see a small run of quality Dragonlance books for the next edition, but a full line would be too much. Sorry, but Dragonlance really is a (almost) one-trick pony (although a great ride) . . . just like Star Wars, later Dragonlance products try too hard to recapture the magic rather than truly expand the setting beyond the Companions of the Lance. Other settings have their fans, including myself, but I don't see print support as realistic for any of them. But I would very much like to see support in the magazines for all of the classic settings. Maybe even mini "Player's Handbooks" for each setting detailing specific races, classes, etc, etc . . . Most importantly, regardless of what becomes the default setting and how much print/online support other settings get . . . WotC should not be afraid to introduce new material that doesn't fit into any existing setting. Give us some DDI articles about new gods, organizations, cities, etc without worry about fitting them into the core, FR, or anything else. There should be not "setting" limits on new material . . . mostly for DDI of course, in print would be different. [/QUOTE]
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