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Message: <blockquote data-quote="MNblockhead" data-source="post: 9285231" data-attributes="member: 6796661">Empower them to engage in what is obviously important to them but guiding the behavior in more positive ways. For example, I'm rather pro rules lawyering.  I lean on my players a lot to help me with rules. Let the rules lawyer make their case. But as the GM, I'm the judge and make the final decision. If they can't abide by that and will not let it go if they are over-ruled, that is more of a social issue. Or if you play in a group that really doesn't care much about the rules and hate any discussion of the rules, then the rules lawyer is likely just a bad fit for the group. If they can't adopt to the table etiquette of your game, you'll likely have to boot them or risk other players leaving and the game falling apart. I don't have much advice regarding power gamers. I don't see them as a problem unless they are telling other players how to build and play their characters. This is just a group fit issue. In a group of power gamers, the casual player may be the bad fit. In a group that cares for the story and could care less about optimizing builds and tactics, the power gamer will be a bad fit. Best to recognize that and have a candid discussion with the player who is not fitting in with the rest of the group.</blockquote>