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<blockquote data-quote="The Crimson Binome" data-source="post: 7746352" data-attributes="member: 6775031">In this case, I'm attempting to model the real world in the language of D&amp;D, which actually works fairly well when you stick to level 1 characters who don't have magic.By that logic, why have any weapons at all? If killing someone with a rock that you find on the ground is exactly as effective as killing them with a sword, then swords never would have been invented. That world doesn't look anything like our real world, though; nor does it resemble the vast majority of fantasy stories. In the real world, as in any believable fantasy world, a sword is a better weapon than a dagger in the vast majority of situations.I will concede that the rules don't give daggers their due in those situations where a dagger would be more useful, such as in a grapple.What you consider fun, is what I consider ridiculous. Daggers are less powerful than swords. That's just a fact of reality. You can't inflict as grievous of a wound when you have a much smaller blade. You're much more likely to kill someone if you hit them with a sword than if you hit them with a dagger, and if the game rules don't reflect that, then that's a catastrophic failure of the rules to do their job.Pathfinder is a role-playing game, which means the player makes decisions from the perspective of their character. I should choose to use a sword instead of a dagger, because my character would choose to use a sword instead of a dagger, because that's what makes sense for how the world works.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="The Crimson Binome, post: 7746352, member: 6775031"] In this case, I'm attempting to model the real world in the language of D&D, which actually works [I]fairly[/I] well when you stick to level 1 characters who don't have magic. By that logic, why have any weapons at all? If killing someone with a rock that you find on the ground is exactly as effective as killing them with a sword, then swords never would have been invented. That world doesn't look [I]anything[/I] like our real world, though; nor does it resemble the vast majority of fantasy stories. In the real world, as in any believable fantasy world, a sword is a better weapon than a dagger in the vast majority of situations. I will concede that the rules don't give daggers their due in those situations where a dagger [I]would[/I] be more useful, such as in a grapple. What you consider fun, is what I consider ridiculous. Daggers are less powerful than swords. That's just a fact of reality. You can't inflict as grievous of a wound when you have a much smaller blade. You're much more likely to kill someone if you hit them with a sword than if you hit them with a dagger, and if the game rules don't reflect that, then that's a catastrophic failure of the rules to do their job. Pathfinder is a role-playing game, which means the player makes decisions from the perspective of their character. I should choose to use a sword instead of a dagger, because my character would choose to use a sword instead of a dagger, because that's what makes sense for how the world works. [/QUOTE]

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