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<blockquote data-quote="Gothmog" data-source="post: 1387024" data-attributes="member: 317">I compared the armor as DR and defense bonuses in UA and Conan, and I gotta say, Conan's system is WAY better.&nbsp; Characters using finesse weapons (like a dagger, rapier, etc) can completely ignore the DR of armor if they roll high enough (a number above the required to hit roll of the attack equal to the DR of the armor), but barring vital area strikes reflected above, a dagger just ain't going to cut it against heavy armor.&nbsp; On the other hand, certain weapons have high armor piercing ratings (such as halberds, picks, etc) and can rip through armor by brute force.&nbsp; IMO, this is how it should be, and I'd LOVE to see 4.0 incorporate Mongoose's Conan armor as DR and dodge/parry based defense.The main thing I'd like to see in 4.0 is less reliance on magic items, and more on character abilities.&nbsp; 3.5 is a step in the right direction, but magic items still play much more of a role in 3.5 than they ever did in previous incarnations of D&amp;D.&nbsp; Not everyone wants super-high magic games, and the core rules should contain that option.&nbsp; Its easy to ratchet the power of the rules up, but MUCH harder to reduce power and have the game play well/not have twinky players moan and complain.Also, ditch the whole stupid CR/EL thing.&nbsp; Its so subjective it means next to nothing since each group has different tactical preferences, class combinations, and equipment.&nbsp; Basing XP off such a subjective measure is really pointless.&nbsp; IIRC, people never had much trouble making challenging encounters in previous incarnations of D&amp;D, so why do we need all the handholding of the CR/EL system now?&nbsp; Instead, either go back to the way 2E did and give a flat XP total per monster and/or give more roleplaying and story-based onjective rewards.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Gothmog, post: 1387024, member: 317"] I compared the armor as DR and defense bonuses in UA and Conan, and I gotta say, Conan's system is WAY better. Characters using finesse weapons (like a dagger, rapier, etc) can completely ignore the DR of armor if they roll high enough (a number above the required to hit roll of the attack equal to the DR of the armor), but barring vital area strikes reflected above, a dagger just ain't going to cut it against heavy armor. On the other hand, certain weapons have high armor piercing ratings (such as halberds, picks, etc) and can rip through armor by brute force. IMO, this is how it should be, and I'd LOVE to see 4.0 incorporate Mongoose's Conan armor as DR and dodge/parry based defense. The main thing I'd like to see in 4.0 is less reliance on magic items, and more on character abilities. 3.5 is a step in the right direction, but magic items still play much more of a role in 3.5 than they ever did in previous incarnations of D&D. Not everyone wants super-high magic games, and the core rules should contain that option. Its easy to ratchet the power of the rules up, but MUCH harder to reduce power and have the game play well/not have twinky players moan and complain. Also, ditch the whole stupid CR/EL thing. Its so subjective it means next to nothing since each group has different tactical preferences, class combinations, and equipment. Basing XP off such a subjective measure is really pointless. IIRC, people never had much trouble making challenging encounters in previous incarnations of D&D, so why do we need all the handholding of the CR/EL system now? Instead, either go back to the way 2E did and give a flat XP total per monster and/or give more roleplaying and story-based onjective rewards. [/QUOTE]

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